User talk:Delphi234

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1 File:Hubbert-fig-20.png
2 File:Lugo_Heliostats.jpg
3 File:Ren2008.svg
4 Spain electricity prod
5 File:US energy consumption 2035-Low Carbon Case.png
6 File:German renewable electricity generation percentage-2012.png
7 File:US incarceration timeline-clean.svg
- 7.1 Household ownership of firearms and handguns by country and city
8 Lastgang der Erneuerbaren
9 Creating charts and graphs
10 SVG images
11 File:US correctional population timeline.gif
12 File:Percentage Ownership of Handguns and Firearms in 2004-2005 vertical.png
13 Population pyramid of Germany
14 Autopatrol given
15 Hedwig Boning
16 Gun death rates for children and teens by high-income country.
- 16.1 SVG problems
17 SVG repair attempts
18 U.S. cannabis arrests by year
- 18.1 SVG optimizer found that works
19 File:Early voting US states.svg
20 Alcala_de_Henares_population_growth.svg
21 United States per capita energy use 1650-2010
22 U.S. unemployment rate under President Obama
23 File:Africa Precipitation Map-sr.svg
24 Minimum wage map of the United States
25 Inquiry
26 Cutting axises

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File:Lugo_Heliostats.jpg[edit]

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File:Ren2008.svg[edit]

I'll see if I can't take care of that in the nearish future. Thanks for the heads up. I can't believe I missed that when I made it. Zellfaze (talk) 20:44, 5 June 2012 (UTC)

Sure. That won't be a problem. Sorry I haven't gotten around to either of them yet. Work has been, well full of work. Zellfaze (talk) 12:31, 25 June 2012 (UTC)

Spain electricity prod[edit]

Hello Delphi234.

I see you update some electricity production diagrams. I have to update the spanish one, but i don't find the source.

For example, I think the source of green line (renewable) of File:Electricity production in Spain.PNG was here, but it doesn't tally with. Can you tell me the url of the source of this green line (and the other lines perhaps), please ? (sorry for my English)

Thanks a lot, Hawk-Eye (talk) 11:21, 10 February 2013 (UTC)

They likely did not include any renewables other than wind and solar. Try adding http://www.eia.gov/cfapps/ipdbproject/iedindex3.cfm?tid=6&pid=36&aid=12&cid=SP,&syid=1980&eyid=2011&unit=BKWH and http://www.eia.gov/cfapps/ipdbproject/iedindex3.cfm?tid=6&pid=37&aid=12&cid=SP,&syid=1980&eyid=2011&unit=BKWH

Nuclear is here http://www.eia.gov/cfapps/ipdbproject/iedindex3.cfm?tid=2&pid=27&aid=12&cid=SP,&syid=1980&eyid=2011&unit=BKWH

Thermal is here http://www.eia.gov/cfapps/ipdbproject/iedindex3.cfm?tid=2&pid=28&aid=12&cid=SP,&syid=1980&eyid=2011&unit=BKWH

Hydro is here. Note that pumped hydro is not an energy source and is used to allow nuclear (and wind and solar) to be used, so it must not be added as an energy source. http://www.eia.gov/cfapps/ipdbproject/iedindex3.cfm?tid=2&pid=33&aid=12&cid=SP,&syid=1980&eyid=2011&unit=BKWH Delphi234 (talk) 00:35, 11 February 2013 (UTC)

Try using this one - non-hydro renewable. http://www.eia.gov/cfapps/ipdbproject/iedindex3.cfm?tid=2&pid=34&aid=12&cid=SP,&syid=1980&eyid=2011&unit=BKWH Delphi234 (talk) 00:37, 11 February 2013 (UTC)

File:US energy consumption 2035-Low Carbon Case.png[edit]

Could you please supply reliable sources for this chart? As it stands, it appears to be en:Original Research. Thanks, Pete Tillman (talk) 03:59, 27 March 2013 (UTC)

That is just a straight line extrapolation of the low carbon case. It is an illustration of the concept. It is not a projection of actual growth/decline, but instead represents the low carbon proposal, a proposal to eliminate coal and petroleum by a certain year, in this case 2030, a popular choice. I can see one error, though, in that it shows a decline in total energy from 2010 to 2015, which I believe is made up for by an increase, not a decrease in natural gas during that period. I will take a look at updating the graph sometime next year or the following, when data for the period becomes available, to fix that error. There is, though, a trend toward decreasing total use of electricity possibly as much as to 50% of what was used in 2000 by 2050, due mostly to efficiency improvements, and the elimination of energy use by buildings. See the book Carbon Free and Nuclear Free, for example. From the birth of this country there has always been a 3%/year growth in total energy use, but whether that will continue is unknown, although there is no harm in drawing a graph to show what it would look like if it did or did not. It is, after all, just an illustration of a concept. The proposal was to eliminate carbon by 2030. This graph just shows what that looks like visually. Delphi234 (talk) 18:35, 5 April 2013 (UTC)

Thanks for the reply. I replied at en:Talk:Fossil-fuel_phase-out, for a wider discussion. Pete Tillman (talk) 21:38, 6 April 2013 (UTC)

I can not reply there. Projections are always fantasy. The goal of carbon free and nuclear free is not my idea, it was proposed in 2009 in the Scientific American. I just drew a chart to show what it looks like. It is a fantasy to think that natural gas is going to increase to meet our energy needs and it is not a part of a carbon free proposal. Like I said, I will update the chart next year when new natural gas figures are available. There really though, is nothing wrong with the chart as a depiction of what carbon free and nuclear free in 2030 would look like graphically. Those who would like the chart to become reality can point to it and say, yes this is what I want. There are plenty of other graphs that can be drawn to meet anyone else's preference of what they would like to see. We also have charts that are historical, and those do represent reality, but all of the projections are just ideas. Could we get all of our energy in 2030 from wind water and solar, as proposed in the Scientific American article? Yes, and this is what it would look like if we did. Delphi234 (talk) 19:18, 15 April 2013 (UTC)

The source of data is EIA for the historical data, and a straight line projection for the 2030 and beyond data. It is possible that solar will catch up with wind and exceed it, but wind has a big headstart in the United States. The ratio of wind to solar is arbitrary, because each can supply all of our energy, although we can get about 8 times as much energy from solar as from wind. The NREL says we can get 49,759,807 GWh/year from wind power and 399,809,888 GWh/year from solar power, over 100 times as much as the US consumes. In 2012 the US consumed 3,686,780 GWh. The actual amount of solar energy reaching the United States, though, is about 100 times as much as the total wind energy. All of the wind comes from the sun, from uneven heating of the surface of the earth. Delphi234 (talk) 19:50, 15 April 2013 (UTC)

File:German renewable electricity generation percentage-2012.png[edit]

It appears that the data source you used for this chart is incorrect. The best available 2012 data at the moment are the BMU report for 2012 and the AGEB data here in document Stromerzeugung nach Energieträgern von 1990 bis 2012 (in TWh) Deutschland insgesamt of 14.02.2013. Both give 46 TWh for wind and 28TWh for solar, but the second says that's 7.4% for wind and 4.5% for PV, so a total over the year of 11.9%, not 16%. I wondered if you were using IEA data, but it's not updated for 2012 at the moment.

I therefore removed the chart from the page until you correct it. --Jmdwp (talk) 16:52, 10 June 2013 (UTC)
PS : I corrected an error in the above link, also you could redo your month by month graph with the values from here http://www.ag-energiebilanzen.de/componenten/download.php?filedata=1355908229.pdf&filename=StromKJ2012.pdf&mimetype=application/pdf Entwicklungen in der deutschen Stromwirtschaft 2012 --Jmdwp (talk) 17:27, 10 June 2013 (UTC)

I will need the monthly data to make the change, not just a total. Anyone can update the graph, though, as it is PD. I have added the data used. The only column that needs to be corrected, probably, is the "Other" column. Delphi234 (talk) 06:26, 11 June 2013 (UTC)

Done. Monthly data has been updated from IEA. The total includes imports and exports, so is lower than the total given other places. Delphi234 (talk) 23:51, 12 June 2013 (UTC)

File:US incarceration timeline-clean.svg[edit]

Thanks for the great SVG chart.

File:US incarceration timeline-clean.svg

Can you provide me the sources for the earlier juvenile detention numbers before 1997? I want to link to the sources from the chart description.

I also want to use the sources to update this chart:

File:Total juvenile detention chart for the USA.gif

Actually, I would like to link to the sources, and let others update the chart. I am not that good at making charts. I am good at finding and linking to sources. --Timeshifter (talk) 15:37, 14 July 2014 (UTC)

I will look for the ones that I found. In general I am better at making charts than finding sources... So if you want anything plotted just let me know. Delphi234 (talk) 22:30, 14 July 2014 (UTC)

Thanks. Any links you used to create that data chart below the description part of the SVG page would be appreciated. I will format the links and describe them for readers of the SVG page. This way others can make more charts using those sources, and editors can use the sources as references in Wikipedia articles. Editors need the sources also to justify inclusion of charts in articles.

Also, could you put something on your user page? That way it won't be a red link in the file history of the charts you create. --Timeshifter (talk) 18:19, 15 July 2014 (UTC)

I found most of it. I also found a second paper that has data that can be added. I am not sure where the 1981 and 1982 data came from but it could be somewhere in the first paper Delphi234 (talk) 18:36, 15 July 2014 (UTC)

http://bjs.ojp.usdoj.gov/index.cfm?ty=pbdetail&iid=1318

Prison 1850 6,737 1860 19,086 1870 32,901 1880 30,659 1890 45,233 1904 57,070 1923 81,959 1930 120,496 1950 178,128 1960 226,344 1970 198,831 1980 302,377

Jail 1880 18,686 1890 33,093 1940 99,249 1950 86,492 1960 119,671 1970 129,189 1978 158,394 1980 163,994 1983 223,551

Table 5-23

Juvenile Delinquents 1880 11,468 1890 14,846 1904 23,034 1910 25,422 1923 27,238 1933 30,496 1950 40,880 1960 57,883 1970 76,729 1980 59,414

Table 5-31

Juvenile Delinquents 1974 76,671 1975 74,270 1977 73,166 1979 71,922

https://www.ncjrs.gov/pdffiles1/Digitization/131649NCJRS.pdf

Figure 3

Juvenile Delinquents 1979 71,922 1983 80,091 1985 83,402 1987 91,646 1989 93,945

Household ownership of firearms and handguns by country and city[edit]

Ah yes, three times. I doubt I ever created a user page. New readers become old readers fairly soon, and there already is a three way link - user page, talk page, and contributions, in the file history section. Going to someone's user page is not normally as valuable as their talk page and their contributions. As soon as 2013 JV data becomes available I am going to look into expanding the chart back to 1850. Even though JV population has been declining, I did not want to project that, and simply used the same figure for 2012. Right now I am finishing up a handgun vs. homicide chart. I have it ready in English and am working on adding translations. It is for 1992, but that is the only data that I have. Did you see the Firearm vs. Homicide charts? There is a big difference, though, between firearms and handguns. I was able to include all 50 states and 10 other countries in one chart, and the data is fairly interesting. Homicides go up with firearm ownership, as do suicides, but aggravated assault and robbery go down. Rape is unaffected. The US only chart looks inconclusive for homicides, but when you include countries with truly low firearm ownership it shows a trend better. In the old west everyone had a six shooter on their hip. When you go to Texas today, that has been replaced with a cellphone. Hopefully some day that cellphone will be used just as effectively to prevent crime as the six shooter. Especially with cellphones that have cameras and are set up to live stream. "You say you want to rob me? And what was your name? And can I get a good view of your face?" Google glass is even better - but need to have an easy way to disable the record indicator light. Like from a remote control in your pocket that can be discretely pressed to activate live streaming, with the record indicator off. Delphi234 (talk) 23:28, 17 July 2014 (UTC)

I may check out more of your charts when I get time. There is a chart on this page that may be of interest to you:

http://cannabis.wikia.com/wiki/NRA

See the section titled something like "% of households by country with handguns and long guns". The chart is for ownership of firearms and handguns by country and city. I used it there under fair use. I wish it were a free image.

Intense people such as yourself are often moving on to their next project. But could you leave a trail of breadcrumbs for the rest of us to follow please? Maybe link to your talk page from your user page. Lots of news media will be coming to your chart page. They will click the author links at the top. Most news media know that red links go nowhere. That may be all they know about Wikipedia and the Commons. They will want to source the chart stats. The media and activists may want to check up on your other work. Most activists know little about user contribution links, etc..

I am not sure you realize how important and rare good charts are. I have been passing on charts on the web for many years, and good stuff is hard to find. Especially as a free image that anybody can use. I have already been passing on this chart on thousands of web pages. I am an admin on a couple big wikis, and I also started passing on the chart on Facebook (as a GIF). --Timeshifter (talk) 18:21, 18 July 2014 (UTC)

I can easily convert the data in[1] into charts. That is just the data that I was looking for, actually, but the most recent is still almost nine years old. I accidentally took out the asterisks which indicate which data is for 2005. Alternatively, the columns 2004-2005 could be split into four columns. Delphi234 (talk) 06:02, 19 July 2014 (UTC)

	1989		1992-1994		1995-1998		1999-2003		2004-2005			2004-2005
Country	Firearm%	Handgun%	Firearm%	Handgun%	Firearm%	Handgun%	Firearm%	Handgun%	Firearm%	Handgun%	City	Firearm%	Handgun%
Australia	20.1	1.6	16	1.6			8.7	1.1	6.2	0.3	Amsterdam (Netherlands)	1.5	0.7
Austria					15.3	8.1			15.1	5.6	Athens (Greece)	10.8	2.1
Belgium	16.5	6.4	15.6	6.7			11.4	4.3	11.4	5.2	Belfast (Northern Ireland)	1.8	0.3
Bulgaria									9.7	6.6	Berlin (Germany)	7.6	3.8
Canada	31	5.2	26	3.9	20.8	2.3	17	1.8	15.5	2.9	Brussels (Belgium)	5.4	2.5
Denmark							11.7	1	12.6	1.2	Budapest (Hungary)	8	2.9
England & Wales	4.7	0.4	4.2	0.6	3.9	0.5	3.1	0.1	6.1	0.5	Buenos Aires (Argentina)	8.8	6.8
Estonia			7.5	1.9	8.3	3	7.4	3.5	7	3.6	Copenhagen (Denmark)	6.9	1.4
Finland	25.5	7.2	25.4	6.3	28.8	6	23.7	6.4	37.9	6.3	Dublin (Ireland)	2.2	0.1
France	25.3	5.9			22.6	4.9	18.2	2.8	16.1	3.7	Edinburgh (Scotland)	2	0.2
Germany	9.2	6.7							12.5	4.2	Johannesburg (RSA)	8.4	0.4
Greece									20.6	1.4	Helsinki (Finland)	16.2	4.6
Hungary									10.4	2.2	Hong Kong (SAR China)	0	0
Iceland									23.5	1.4	Istanbul (Turkey)	10.1	6
Ireland									12.4	1	Lima (Peru)	6.9	6
Italy			16.1	5.5					12.9	5.3	Lisbon (Portugal)	12.1	3.7
Japan							0.3	0	0.8	0	London (England)	1.8	0
Luxembourg									12.3	7	Madrid (Spain)	10	2
Mexico										2.8	Maputo (Mozambique)	3	2.8
Netherlands	2	0.9	2	1.4	2.3	0.9	1.7	0.8	4.8	1.3	New York (USA)	8.1	3.7
New Zealand			24.4	1.6					16.6	0.6	Oslo (Norway)	13.7	2.9
Northern Ireland	9.4	1.5							12.7	2.1	Paris (France)	4.1	2.1
Norway	31.5	3.7							26.1	3.7	Reykjavic (Iceland)	15.9	0.6
Poland			2.5	1.1	4.7	1	3.7	1.3	4.4	0.9	Rio de Janeiro (Brazil)	3
Portugal							13.2	4.3	18.3	3.9	Rome (Italy)	9.9	5.7
Scotland	5.1	0.4			4.2	0.4	3.1	0.1	6.7	0.7	Sao Paulo (Brazil)	0.5
Spain	12.7	2							12	0.5	Stockholm (Sweden)	10.1	1.3
Sweden			15.9	1.5	16.2	1.7	15.9	1.7	19.3	1.6	Sydney (Australia)	2.4	0.1
Switzerland	32.8	13.9			35.3	13.8	35.7	11.8	28.6	10.3	Tallinn (Estonia)	5.1	4.3
United Kingdom	5.2	0.5			4.1	0.4	3	0.1	6	0.4	Vienna (Austria)	8.9	5.2
USA	49.1	28.6			43.6	25.1	33.5	17.7	42.8	17.6	Warsaw (Poland)	1.8	1.2
											Zurich (Switzerland)	16.2	6.8
Average	18.7	5.7	13	2.7	16.2	5.2	12.4	3.5	14.2	3.4	Average	7	2.5

Thanks. I'd like image charts of the most recent years in the table (2004-5). That could be used in various articles in either thumbnail form, or even larger, when right-floated. Asterisks are unnecessary. 2 charts. One for countries, and one for cities. --Timeshifter (talk) 00:24, 20 July 2014 (UTC)

I tried creating a table, but it is not very readable. I think it needs to be done in SVG instead of PNG so that it is scaleable. Is this what you are looking for, a table? Delphi234 (talk) 02:14, 20 July 2014 (UTC)

An image table would be nice too. That way the info will be more likely to be shared. I would prefer a single vertical list. Not wrapped to 2 lists. That way the image is narrower and can also be right floated and put in a right sidebar of images. I do that often. So do many Wikipedia articles. SVG would be great since languages could be changed. Percentages are for households, and not per person. --Timeshifter (talk) 23:13, 20 July 2014 (UTC)

Or a chart, like this? File:Percentage Ownership of Handguns and Firearms by Country in 2004-2005.png Delphi234 (talk) 03:09, 20 July 2014 (UTC)

Great! I would also like that chart rotated 90 degrees so that it can also be used in a right-floating column of images. The percentages are for household ownership, and not per capita. Please indicate that in the title of the chart. --Timeshifter (talk) 23:13, 20 July 2014 (UTC)

Really? The source is "Table 18 Ownership of firearms and handguns in countries and main cities (percentages). 1989-2005 ICVS and 2005 EU ICS*" I agree that most of the data though of this type, is what percentage of households have a gun. Delphi234 (talk) 02:09, 21 July 2014 (UTC)

It looks like these are the three questions asked about guns: Delphi234 (talk) 02:39, 21 July 2014 (UTC)

Q341. Do you or anyone else in your household own a handgun, shotgun, rifle, or air rifle?

Yes
No
Refuses to say

9 Don't know.

<<If answer is equal to code 1, then continue with question 342. Else continue with question 344.>>

Q342. Could you tell me which sort of gun or guns you own?

<<Int. Code all guns if more than one mentioned>>

<<Int. Multiple responses allowed>>

Handgun
Shotgun
Rifle
Air rifle
Other gun
Refuses to say

9 Don't know

Q343. For what reason do you own the gun (guns)? <<Int. Multiple response allowed>>

For hunting
Target shooting (sports)
As part of a collection (collector's item)
For crime prevention/protection
In armed forces or the police
Because it has always been in our family/home
Other answers <<specify>>
Refuses to answer
Don't know

I just updated the info on the Table 18 image page in order to clarify the household question:

http://cannabis.wikia.com/wiki/File:Ownership_of_firearms_and_handguns_by_country_and_city.jpg

Table 18 on page 279 of Criminal Victimisation in International Perspective, by the International Crime Victims Survey. Table 18 heading: "Ownership of firearms and handguns in countries and main cities (percentages). 1989-2005 ICVS and 2005 EU ICS." From the report intro: "A large portion of the latest data in this report comes from the European Survey on Crime and Safety (EU ICS), organised by a consortium led by Gallup Europe, co-financed by the European Commission’s Directorate General for Research and Technology Development."

Note that the 2004-5 household numbers in the timeline chart in the article linked below match the 2004-5 number in Table 18.

Self-Reported Gun Ownership in U.S. Is Highest Since 1993. By Lydia Saad. October 26, 2011. Gallup report. "Forty-seven percent of American adults currently report that they have a gun in their home or elsewhere on their property. This is up from 41% a year ago and is the highest Gallup has recorded since 1993, albeit marginally above the 44% and 45% highs seen during that period." ... "The new result comes from Gallup's Oct. 6-9 Crime poll."

--Timeshifter (talk) 03:42, 21 July 2014 (UTC)

Country	Firearm%	Handgun%	Country	Firearm%	Handgun%
Australia	6.2	0.3	Japan	0.8	0
Austria	15.1	5.6	Luxembourg	12.3	7
Belgium	11.4	5.2	Mexico	0	2.8
Bulgaria	9.7	6.6	Netherlands	4.8	1.3
Canada	15.5	2.9	New Zealand	16.6	0.6
Denmark	12.6	1.2	Northern Ireland	12.7	2.1
England & Wales	6.1	0.5	Norway	26.1	3.7
Estonia	7	3.6	Poland	4.4	0.9
Finland	37.9	6.3	Portugal	18.3	3.9
France	16.1	3.7	Scotland	6.7	0.7
Germany	12.5	4.2	Spain	12	0.5
Greece	20.6	1.4	Sweden	19.3	1.6
Hungary	10.4	2.2	Switzerland	28.6	10.3
Iceland	23.5	1.4	United Kingdom	6	0.4
Ireland	12.4	1	USA	42.8	17.6
Italy	12.9	5.3
Average				14.2	3.4

City	Country	Firearm%	Handgun%	City	Country	Firearm%	Handgun%
Amsterdam	Netherlands	1.5	0.7	London	England	1.8	0
Athens	Greece	10.8	2.1	Madrid	Spain	10	2
Belfast	Northern Ireland	1.8	0.3	Maputo	Mozambique	3	2.8
Berlin	Germany	7.6	3.8	New York	USA	8.1	3.7
Brussels	Belgium	5.4	2.5	Oslo	Norway	13.7	2.9
Budapest	Hungary	8	2.9	Paris	France	4.1	2.1
Buenos Aires	Argentina	8.8	6.8	Reykjavic	Iceland	15.9	0.6
Copenhagen	Denmark	6.9	1.4	Rio de Janeiro	Brazil	3
Dublin	Ireland	2.2	0.1	Rome	Italy	9.9	5.7
Edinburgh	Scotland	2	0.2	Sao Paulo	Brazil	0.5
Johannesburg	South Africa	8.4	0.4	Stockholm	Sweden	10.1	1.3
Helsinki	Finland	16.2	4.6	Sydney	Australia	2.4	0.1
Hong Kong	SAR China	0	0	Tallinn	Estonia	5.1	4.3
Istanbul	Turkey	10.1	6	Vienna	Austria	8.9	5.2
Lima	Peru	6.9	6	Warsaw	Poland	1.8	1.2
Lisbon	Portugal	12.1	3.7	Zurich	Switzerland	16.2	6.8
Average						7	2.5

No go on creating a table in SVG. I will ask if someone else can. Delphi234 (talk) 03:39, 21 July 2014 (UTC)

The answer on creating a table is "You can create tables in the Draw component of w:LibreOffice (copy and paste from Calc or Excel should be possible to some extend). Then export to SVG via File → Export…'. Make sure to set your page size to fit the table in order to avoid huge borders or clean up in Inkscape afterwards. Note however, that tables are not really considered to be in scope at Commons and might get deleted. We even have a template for stuff that should be wiki markup. Might be advisable to upload stuff like that locally at Wikipedia". I am not sure what LibreOffice is, but there is a link that you can follow. So, your best bet if you want a table is to create one yourself locally. Delphi234 (talk) 02:17, 22 July 2014 (UTC)

There are many image tables used on Wikipedia that are hosted on the Commons. The reasoning in many cases is that the image table is actually easier to maintain in a Wikipedia article. This is because one does not have to keep an article on one's watchlist. I no longer watch many articles because I don't have the time, and I don't want to have to check all kind of edits to see if the table got messed up. So I watch the table on the Commons. It is good that it is on the Commons because others may want the data in order to create bar charts, graphs, etc..

In this case though, since you have created the bar charts, there is little need for image tables. The wikitext of the tables should be on the description pages so that others can create bar charts, etc.. --Timeshifter (talk) 04:22, 23 July 2014 (UTC)

Lastgang der Erneuerbaren[edit]

Dear Delphi234,

how have generated File:German Wind and Solar 2012-02.png?--Kopiersperre (talk) 20:04, 18 July 2014 (UTC)

Thanks for asking. I download the data from[2] one day at a time, for actual wind, solar, and >100MW, and then average the quarter hour data for wind and solar to combine it with the >100 MW data, and then plot it. You have to be careful to click on the DE tab to avoid the Austria data. In another chart, I plotted nuclear separately, but to do that I had to use the previous day data[3] and transcribe the data one value at a time, as you have to subscribe to download that data. This website[4] is much easier to use, but does not have hourly data. Delphi234 (talk) 03:46, 19 July 2014 (UTC)

And may you also publish your plotting script?--Kopiersperre (talk) 09:48, 19 July 2014 (UTC)

For that I use Open Office, and just create a plot. I then copy and paste the plot into Paint and add the legends. The time is generated using this string: =VALUE(RIGHT(G4;8))+DATE(LEFT(G4;4);RIGHT(LEFT(G4;7);2);RIGHT(LEFT(G4;10);2)) The hourly average uses =(F4+F5+F6+F7)/4 for wind and =(L4+L5+L6+L7)/4 for solar.

This gives me something like this:

Time            Wind    Solar
12:00 AM        8081.85 0
12:15 AM                
12:30 AM                
12:45 AM                
01:00 AM        7802.85 0

Which I then cut and paste the values only into three new columns, and then sort by the solar column to get rid of all the quarter hour spaces. Then I resort it by time to put it back into proper order so that I can plot it with the >100MW data. Each month is in a separate spreadsheet file, and when I do a new month I just erase the data columns but leave the calculation columns, so it is pretty easy to do. To do a new month, my first step is to create a blank next month from the blank month I already have. For example, in July I have a blank spreadsheet for August, and before I start using it, in August, I will create a blank one for September. It is easier to do that than to delete the data each month. This is what one days data looks like when it is ready to plot: Delphi234 (talk) 14:18, 19 July 2014 (UTC)

Time                    DE              Time            Other           Wind            Solar
2012/02/01, 12:00 am    47,355.9        12:00 AM        47355.9         8081.85         0
2012/02/01, 01:00 am    46,519.7        01:00 AM        46519.7         7802.85         0
2012/02/01, 02:00 am    45,650.0        02:00 AM        45650           7901.3          0
2012/02/01, 03:00 am    45,238.8        03:00 AM        45238.8         7928.375        0
2012/02/01, 04:00 am    45,601.4        04:00 AM        45601.4         7403.225        0
2012/02/01, 05:00 am    47,136.8        05:00 AM        47136.8         7087.575        0
2012/02/01, 06:00 am    51,046.1        06:00 AM        51046.1         6997.1          0
2012/02/01, 07:00 am    55,765.2        07:00 AM        55765.2         6942.625        4.625
2012/02/01, 08:00 am    57,286.0        08:00 AM        57286           6509.6          623.4
2012/02/01, 09:00 am    57,085.2        09:00 AM        57085.2         6075.375        2942.75
2012/02/01, 10:00 am    55,747.7        10:00 AM        55747.7         6143.45         5734.175
2012/02/01, 11:00 am    54,736.2        11:00 AM        54736.2         6866.75         7609
2012/02/01, 12:00 pm    53,732.0        12:00 PM        53732           7518.725        8319.225
2012/02/01, 01:00 pm    53,306.9        01:00 PM        53306.9         8558            7757.675
2012/02/01, 02:00 pm    52,556.7        02:00 PM        52556.7         9790.225        6068.7
2012/02/01, 03:00 pm    53,218.3        03:00 PM        53218.3         10414.8         3457.2
2012/02/01, 04:00 pm    54,695.4        04:00 PM        54695.4         10006.375       906.15
2012/02/01, 05:00 pm    57,076.5        05:00 PM        57076.5         10099.875       33.5
2012/02/01, 06:00 pm    59,322.7        06:00 PM        59322.7         10503.525       0
2012/02/01, 07:00 pm    57,607.8        07:00 PM        57607.8         10704.775       0
2012/02/01, 08:00 pm    55,087.8        08:00 PM        55087.8         10603.4         0
2012/02/01, 09:00 pm    52,281.4        09:00 PM        52281.4         9590.175        0
2012/02/01, 10:00 pm    50,390.3        10:00 PM        50390.3         8801.375        0
2012/02/01, 11:00 pm    48,682.6        11:00 PM        48682.6         8133.5          0

This type of how-to info is invaluable. Please post it on the talk page of the chart, too. --Timeshifter (talk) 23:17, 20 July 2014 (UTC)

Here is my SVG version of a temporal power generation profile:--Kopiersperre (talk) 17:57, 25 August 2014 (UTC)
File:German Wind and Solar 2014-07-01 to 2014-07-07.svg

Looks good. I would remove the blank space at the left, or at least reduce it, and reduce the thickness of the black lines for each data bar. I moved the legend so it is not overlapping the data. Delphi234 (talk) 13:10, 26 August 2014 (UTC)

Creating charts and graphs[edit]

Most of the ~400 charts and graphs that I have created were done either in Excel or more recently in Open Office, and then copied to Paint to add legends. Early ones used GIF, because it is a lossless compression, but PNG is used now, or SVG. There are several methods used to create the SVG charts, and are covered separately.

Step One. Find some data to plot. Decide what type of chart to use, X:Y, Bar, Histogram, or Pie Chart, for example. As a last step, document where the data came from in the source section. This is necessary both for fact checking, and so the source can be added wherever the chart is used. Since all of the charts I make are PD, they can be used anywhere, by anyone, without notification or permission. Charts that are an update to an existing chart, though, need to maintain the existing license.
Step Two. Assemble the data into a spread sheet, and massage it if necessary. Often the data comes from a pdf file, and usually I can copy and paste it into notepad and then import it into Open Office, with relatively little manual editing. Worst case is creating the data from an existing chart, and correlating the pixel location of each data point with a value. To do this I tend to paste it into Paint, and examine the image at maximum zoom (8 times for Paint). Sometimes data just has to be entered one value at a time, which of course if very tedious, and needs to be checked carefully.
Step Three. Make a chart in Open Office. Set the size to 640x480, 800x600, 1024x768, or whatever is appropriate. Set the legend to Bold 12 pt for each axis. If a minor axis is added, set it to a lighter shade of gray, usually Grey 2. An exception is if the major grid is for example 0 2 4 6, or 2000, 2002, 2004, 2006, use the same (default) color for the minor grid, if used. Set the colors as desired. Delete unnecessary legends and do not add any titles (most of the time). Titles are added in Paint.
Step Four. Copy and paste the chart into Paint, using exactly the same size as was used in Open Office (6.40" = 640 pixels). Add legends, fix things like if you are doing a semilog plot, Open Office can not show 0.01 0.1 1 10 100, but either 0.01 0.10 1.00 10.00 100.00, 0.0 0.1 1.0 10.0 100.0, or 0 0 1 10 100, so I usually copy and paste two charts, or even three, and then copy and paste from one chart to the other the 0.01 or 0.1 that I need to use. The font used in Paint is not the same as the ones in Open Office, so it is better to get all of the values looking the same. In some cases I keep only the tick marks, and by hand in Paint add in all of the values. When doing that I try to get them all lined up the same, zooming in to check them and move them as needed. A simple way to start out with them lined up is to add all the values at once, with spaces as needed between each. They tend to never come out just right, and to fix them, select the value to move, and instead of moving it with the mouse, which would move it in two axis, use the arrows on the keyboard to move them only in one axis, one pixel at a time.
Step Five. Save the file with a descriptive name.
Step Six. Upload to commons. The name can be changed while uploading. For example, I might not include the country name in the file name while creating the file, but on commons it really needs to be added, to allow distinguishing it from the same chart with data from another country. Change the license as desired. The default is cc3.0, will likely be cc4.0 soon, and my preference is PD, but if you want attribution or have any other requirements, you can not use PD. Add a description, and very importantly, choose appropriate categories. This is essential for multiple reasons. It helps people find your chart and other similar charts, and helps you to see if there is already a similar chart. If there is, in some cases it can simply be uploaded with a new file to add new data. See the guideline on overwriting existing files. A chart can either be dated, in the file name, or undated, in the file name, but still cover a specific date range. If the file name does not include the date, but the chart covers "current plus historical" data, in general it needs to or can be overwritten with an up to date file when new data becomes available. Commons can not have two files that are identical but have different file names, but when a new chart is uploaded, the old one can be re-uploaded as a new file name but with a date in the file name. See, for example, the file File:US gas prices.png. This is created by the US Government, by the EIA, so it is PD-USGov. It is actually two separate smaller GIF images on the website, but is created by zooming in, and copy and pasting the image into Paint, and saving it as a PNG file. There are two versions saved on commons. The current month in an undated file, and each older version is given a dated file name, such as File:US gas prices July 2012.png. That way if someone wants to use the prices at a specific date in time they can, and if they just want a file that automatically gets updated each month, they can do that as well, just by using the image with the undated file name.
Step Seven. Edit the source information as needed, for example, creating a link to another file that is similar but in a different language, or a different date. In some cases it is helpful to add a table that lists the data that was used. See for example File:US incarceration timeline-clean.svg (an update to an existing chart).
Step Eight. Add image to where ever you want. Or leave this up to everyone else.
Step Nine. Data charts that can be updated - update them as new data becomes available. This could be weekly, monthly, or annually, normally.

--Delphi234 (talk) 23:05, 19 July 2014 (UTC)

SVG images[edit]

These are much harder to create, depending on how they are created, but have the advantage for almost every chart that they are scaleable, in a lossless manner. The easiest way I use to create them is in Gnumeric, and simply export them as an SVG. Unfortunately there is little control over legend placement in particular, but they can be created in only a few minutes. To translate to other languages, I use the same chart in Gnumeric, and just change the column headings to change the legend. That leaves only the titles to change manually. I make a list of all the languages and translations so that if the data is updated I can re-create the different language charts easily. An example of this is File:Annual electricity net generation in the world.svg (an update of an existing chart).

The first SVG charts I created, and the method I prefer, is to create them by hand from any similar PD chart that I find, and just change each element by hand. A good one to use for this is File:Global Wind Power Cumulative Capacity.svg because several people worked on it, cleaning up the SVG, and adding multiple languages. I prefer SVG that is created in Notepad, with a scale element that allows the data to be in the chart, in a manner that can be updated easily by anyone. The only difficulty is adding additional years, which may require re-scaling the chart, and recalculating the location of the year legends. I work on each element one at a time. I get the starting and finishing legends located properly, then scale the intermediate ones.

For example, in the above chart, the starting point is 1996 at 18, and the end point is 2013 at 683. To add another year, the chart needs to be scaled slightly differently, but once the end point at 683 was determined, and the starting point was at 18, with 17 dates, divide (683 - 18) by 17 = 39.11. Add 39 to each location, locating them at 18, 57, 96, 135, 174, 213, 252, 291, 330, 369, 408, 447, 486, 525, 564, 603, 642, 683. These were adjusted by hand to 18, 57, 96, 136, 175, 214, 253, 292, 331, 371, 410, 449, 488, 527, 566, 605, 644, 683. With line charts it is easy and convenient, often, to use for example, 2015 as the end point of the chart, so that data for 2014 and 2015 can be later added without any need to change the scaling each time.

There is an odd problem with right to left languages that may need to be addressed, by adding ‎ or ‏ for example to get the percent sign to appear to the left of a number, or something similar. See, for example, the source code of File:World energy consumption by fuel.svg. This was the first pie chart I created in SVG, and hopefully has enough information in the comments to see how to calculate the data points in a spread sheet to create the pie chart.

There are two templates that can be used to create SVG charts. A simple one, Template:SVG Chart, which was used for File:World energy consumption.svg, and a more complicated one en:w:Module:Charts SVG that is under development. In both cases you create a meta source file, which for example, is added to the talk page for the file you are creating, by clicking edit, and then after saving it, the SVG source code is created. I use "show preview" until I am certain that I have created the final SVG code which will be used. I create a local file using Notepad, and preview it either in Inkscape, or in any browser, which is actually better. Wikimedia, though has some rendering errors, so after the file is uploaded, it might not look the same. To create a file name in Notepad it is necessary to put the full filename inside quotes, such as "World energy consumption.svg" or else you will actually create a useless file named "World energy consumption.svg.txt".

Both Help:SVG and the examples at SVG examples are very useful. And of course help is also available from everyone else if needed.

--Delphi234 (talk) 23:05, 19 July 2014 (UTC)

Feel free to post this stuff on your user page. :)

Maybe start some pages in this category I created long ago:

Category:Commons charts and graphs

Your previous sections higher up would also be good info for others to learn.

You might link to all your user uploads too from all those pages. Lots of examples of what you are talking about. Also, add a few links to a few charts from your user page and the category pages. --Timeshifter (talk) 00:37, 20 July 2014 (UTC)

File:US correctional population timeline.gif[edit]

File:US correctional population timeline.gif

Thanks for updating that chart. I prefer your new format. I like the cumulative total in the left column. I have posted that chart in many places in the past, and updated to the new chart on the wiki.

I updated the sources there on the image page. Feel free to add more links and info here or there. --Timeshifter (talk) 03:48, 21 July 2014 (UTC)

It was misleading the old way. It was drawn as if it was a stacked area chart, but it was actually a line chart that had bogus colors shading in the area between the curves. Delphi234 (talk) 04:17, 21 July 2014 (UTC)

File:Percentage Ownership of Handguns and Firearms in 2004-2005 vertical.png[edit]

File:Percentage Ownership of Handguns and Firearms in 2004-2005 vertical.png

I cropped the above-linked image, and used it here:

http://cannabis.wikia.com/wiki/Sentencing

See the section titled "Handguns equal high murder rate".

Thanks for creating the vertical chart! --Timeshifter (talk) 02:00, 22 July 2014 (UTC)

Population pyramid of Germany[edit]

right|upright=0.3 Dear Delphi,

may you create one? A possible data source would be this--Kopiersperre (talk) 11:47, 3 August 2014 (UTC)

I already have a spreadsheet for almost every country. Delphi234 (talk) 14:04, 3 August 2014 (UTC)

See File:Germanypop.svg Delphi234 (talk) 16:15, 3 August 2014 (UTC)

Thanks very much. I would appreciate to have one countries pyramid for every base form of population pyramids.--Kopiersperre (talk) 19:38, 3 August 2014 (UTC)

May you change "Beschriftung in Deutsch" into "Alterspyramide von Deutschland (2014)"?--Kopiersperre (talk) 19:59, 3 August 2014 (UTC)

Done. I will see what I can find. I am working on these. As you can see, four are done. Delphi234 (talk) 20:44, 3 August 2014 (UTC)

Please plot armenia. There age pyramid has three bulges – looks very funny. The gulf states are because of the male overhang also interesting.--Kopiersperre (talk) 21:33, 3 August 2014 (UTC)

Angola is a better example of "B". I might re-scale it, because it has barely over 2 million. Delphi234 (talk) 22:30, 3 August 2014 (UTC)

Dear Delphi, the non-english text in File:Irelandpop.svg is copied from Georgiapop.svg and states it's Georgia. Please correct it--Kopiersperre (talk) 10:02, 26 August 2014 (UTC)

Thanks. Fixed. Delphi234 (talk) 02:29, 27 August 2014 (UTC)

Autopatrol given[edit]

Hello. I just wanted to let you know that I have granted autopatrol rights to your account; the reason for this is that I believe you are sufficiently trustworthy and experienced to have your contributions automatically sighted. This will have no effect on your editing, and is simply intended to help users watching Recent changes or Recent uploads to find unproductive edits amidst the productive ones. Thank you. INeverCry 06:30, 8 August 2014 (UTC)

Hedwig Boning[edit]

Dear Delphi234: Concerning the image by Hedwig Boning, I own a poster like that in your book. Does the book give any information about Boning? Thank you.

Henrytow (talk) 20:03, 12 August 2014 (UTC)

Can not help you. I just noted what it says on the bottom of the poster as to the publisher. Delphi234 (talk) 20:38, 12 August 2014 (UTC)

Gun death rates for children and teens by high-income country.[edit]

This would be a good chart for the Commons:

http://cannabis.wikia.com/wiki/File:Gun_death_rates_for_children_and_teens_by_high-income_country.png

It comes from this article:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/08/19/black-children-gun-deaths_n_5692423.html

For more info on its relevance see the chart in use here:

http://cannabis.wikia.com/wiki/NRA - chart is currently in the right sidebar near the top of the page.

--Timeshifter (talk) 13:30, 21 August 2014 (UTC)

File:Children and teen gun death rate.svg

--Delphi234 (talk) 03:44, 23 August 2014 (UTC)

Thanks! --Timeshifter (talk) 04:47, 24 August 2014 (UTC)

SVG problems[edit]

For some reason the SVG image is not working on Wikia. This happened previously too with another image. I contacted Wikia awhile back, but it looks like the problem has not been fixed on their end. So I substituted gif images on Wikia. See:

http://cannabis.wikia.com/wiki/File:Children_and_teen_gun_death_rate.svg

http://cannabis.wikia.com/wiki/File:Children_and_teen_gun_death_rate.gif

http://cannabis.wikia.com/wiki/File:US_incarceration_timeline-clean.svg

http://cannabis.wikia.com/wiki/File:U.S._incarceration_timeline_4.gif

http://community.wikia.com/wiki/Thread:699665

http://cannabis.wikia.com/wiki/User:Timeshifter/Sandbox_12 - other svg images uploaded around the same time worked on Wikia. --Timeshifter (talk) 00:59, 25 August 2014 (UTC)

I am not familiar with Wikia, but when you click on the image it works, so the problem might be the Wikia rendering software. I would try playing with size parameters, and things like that. Commons also offers png versions in multiple sizes for all the svg images, so you can use those. There are rendering quirks with svg. I can create an svg using inkscape that looks fine and is total trash when I upload it to commons. And I get surprises sometimes with the font sizes - or positioning. Just recently I had something in Arabic that looks fine in my browser, but when I uploaded it to commons it put things at the beginning of the line instead of at the end. I do not know enough about svg to identify errors or why some things work and some do not. There are svg checkers, but they certainly do not catch everything. They are more like autocorrect, I would say. But if you or anyone can see an error in the svg, feel free to let me know or just fix it and upload a corrected file. But let me know so I can try to not replicate the same error in other images. Delphi234 (talk) 08:28, 25 August 2014 (UTC)

I notice that the font looks grainy for the country names along the bottom in this version:

http://img3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20140824200950/cannabis/images/1/16/Children_and_teen_gun_death_rate.svg

Could that be part of the problem? That is what I get when I click on the image link here:

http://cannabis.wikia.com/wiki/File:Children_and_teen_gun_death_rate.svg

I also put a sized image test on that page. It did not work. Click the 500px link on that page. --Timeshifter (talk) 16:23, 25 August 2014 (UTC)

Can you find an svg image that does work, so that I can compare it with these? I used to include a doctype statement, but per suggestion removed it (it is not used by Commons).

<?xml version="1.0" standalone="no"?>
<!DOCTYPE svg PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD SVG 1.1//EN" "http://www.w3.org/Graphics/SVG/1.1/DTD/svg11.dtd">
<svg width="800px" height="600px"
     viewBox="0 0 800 600" preserveAspectRatio="none"
         xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" version="1.1"
         xmlns:xlink="http://www.w3.org/1999/xlink">

Now use:

<?xml version="1.0"?>
<svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" height="600px" width="800px" 
     version="1.1" preserveAspectRatio="none" viewBox="0 0 800 600">

You can also find one that works and substitute the first few lines from it to the image that is not working - just change the height/width so it is correct. Delphi234 (talk) 17:14, 25 August 2014 (UTC)

Here are some working SVG images:

http://cannabis.wikia.com/wiki/Category:SVG_images

You can create a user page on Wikia on that wiki with just a username (email address optional for password retrieval). This allows you to upload images. You can experiment on your user page with image sizing, formatting, etc.. Wikia regularly screws things up. But if we can figure out the problem I can send them a message about it. You can too once you register a username. Use Special:Contact there to let them know about SVG stuff. --Timeshifter (talk) 18:13, 25 August 2014 (UTC)

Not really interested in Wikia. But if I can find out something that needs to be done to make images work better there, that can be done. There are differences in the files. One that works is very simple:

<?xml version="1.0" encoding="utf-8"?>
<svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="500" height="500">
<path fill="none" stroke-width="38" stroke="#C00" d="M86,88a230,230 0 1,0 1,-1L412,412"/>
</svg>

You might want to try changing 500 to 800 and 600, and using that for the header, and see if that allows the file that is not working to work. --Delphi234 (talk) 22:18, 25 August 2014 (UTC)

There aren't enough hours in the day. I have to pick what I focus on. I know next to nothing about SVG. I was happy to recently figure out something basic like using the "eraser" and "fill" in Irfanview. :)

I have figured out some advanced things. That can take some serious time though. You might be interested in the conversion methods here: w:User:Timeshifter/Sandbox44. --Timeshifter (talk) 23:58, 25 August 2014 (UTC)

@Timeshifter: Why do you work in a parallel Wiki and not in the one and only Wiki(pedia)?--Kopiersperre (talk) 22:59, 25 August 2014 (UTC)

And why am I not working there? I can not even answer there. Why is a long story, but Wikipedia is making a huge mistake by not letting me work there. All I can do is make a list of edits to make, and wait until I can make them. And the list gets longer and longer. Some of the edits get made by someone else, but a large percentage are still waiting to be made. Delphi234 (talk) 23:33, 25 August 2014 (UTC)

Yesterday, I glanced at some of what got you banned on Wikipedia. I have seen people with indefinite bans allowed to edit again. But they had to ask, and make various assurances. I don't know about the rights and wrongs of your particular situation, and don't have the time to discuss that. But I myself avoid editing certain areas just to keep from wasting time arguing. I leave info and references on talk pages sometimes. And then let the regular editors decide what to do with it. Over time it is sometimes used in some way or another. Or not. I don't stress over it anymore. --Timeshifter (talk) 18:00, 26 August 2014 (UTC)

I am not banned. Banned and blocked are very different. I am blocked, and an indef block can be removed anytime, and by anyone, as soon as the reason for the block is resolved. Which it has been long ago - and even before I was blocked. Arguing about stuff on Wikipedia is described as "arguing about trivia with morons". There is a huge amount of schoolyard bullying that goes on - all completely unacceptable - and I simply got caught up in it because I quite reasonably I might add, wanted Wikipedia to spell things correctly. But all of that is not an issue that I am interested in any more. I tried and failed. I leave it to someone else to pick up that torch. All I want to do is necessary edits that everyone agrees on. Blocking me today serves no valid purpose, and serves only to hurt Wikipedia. I notice a broken link and it stays broken because I can not fix it, and no one else does. A power plant comes on line and the article stayed saying it was under construction for several months because I could not update it. Data becomes available for a power plant and it does not get added because I can not add it, and no one else notices that it is available. Nothing short of absurd that I am blocked. Delphi234 (talk) 22:19, 26 August 2014 (UTC)

I should clarify why I don't stress anymore. I noticed after leaving info on talk pages instead of trying to edit contentious articles that I got a lot more done. I realized that when I looked at it from a cost-benefit analysis that more useful info and references got into articles this way. I can leave info on many talk pages, and over weeks and months some of it gets into the articles. By not arguing with the morons, as you say, I had a lot more time to edit the non-contentious articles, and to work on the Commons. I rarely have problems editing on the Commons. The morons on Wikipedia, and there are many in the admin ranks too, think I am a moron too. And so arguing with each other is a pointless lost cause, and ends up being more about our mutual anger than about the facts. So I just leave the facts on the talk page. Since I am no longer involved after that point, some editors who know nothing about me are bound to look at the facts and references objectively. They may be able to get the info into the article without pissing off the people I piss off. By the way, I think this may not be totally correct: "an indef block can be removed anytime, and by anyone, as soon as the reason for the block is resolved." An admin might remove your block, but another admin might put it right back. From what I remember it takes agreement to remove an indefinite block and have it stick. Just my 2 cents. :) --Timeshifter (talk) 06:30, 28 August 2014 (UTC)

@Kopiersperre. I also edit in Shoutwiki. Wikia and Shoutwiki allow points of view, and I can create articles and wikis about almost anything I want. I see you create charts and graphs too. Check out the sandbox link in my last message to Delphi234. --Timeshifter (talk) 23:58, 25 August 2014 (UTC)

@Timeshifter: Editing in Shoutwiki is more evolved than me creating user subpages in german wikipedia for pov pages. I just don't like commercial providers.

I also create some diagrams, but mostly I update old ones.

Because of you I've read something about the School-to-prison pipeline, which was quite interesting.--Kopiersperre (talk) 09:30, 26 August 2014 (UTC)

I am glad to hear that you have been updating old diagrams. There are a great many that have been created over the last ten years by editors who long ago stopped editing. I hope that you will take a look at adding German to the svg diagrams in the category:Translation possible - SVG. I have started working on them, using the <switch> tag around the <text>, and moving them into the category:Translation possible - SVG (switch). There are about 5,000 that have been tagged as translation possible, and less than 50 that have had any translations added (not counting the new population pyramids). I recommend adding a small number of translations at first. While it is helpful to add translations for every language where each image is used, that can be quite tedious, and much easier if a native speaker does the translation for each language. Once you add even one other language, adding others is much easier. I started out doing the population pyramids in about 25 languages but that was too slow, so now I am doing them in seven plus the language of that country if I can easily. <switch> is very new and seems to date from about November 2013. To use it in infoboxes you might have to ask an admin to add |lang=xx to the infobox code, which will force the correct translation for that wiki, and have no effect on any other images. That has been done for fr wiki, but will need to be done for all of the other wikis, including English. Delphi234 (talk) 14:21, 27 August 2014 (UTC)

SVG repair attempts[edit]

Using Notepad++ I tried a few of your ideas, and edited the SVG files. With no success so far. I do not know if I tried your ideas correctly. See the numbered variations of this file:

They are all in this category for quick, easy access:

http://cannabis.wikia.com/wiki/Category:SVG_images

Feel free to upload more numbered variations as tests.

I ran your original file through this validator:

http://validator.w3.org

It found "9 Errors, 2 warning(s)". I don't know if any of them are the problem or not. That validator is based on HTML 5, and I know that many people are satisfied to meet "transitional" HTML 4.01 standards.

Here is a long list of validators:

http://validator.w3.org/dev/tests

I am clueless though about most of the stuff in that validator list: XHTML, SMIL, XML, SVG, etc.. This sounds interesting: "Valid Doctypeless Documents".

Along with this:

Help:SVG#SVG document declaration --Timeshifter (talk) 06:05, 31 August 2014 (UTC)

U.S. cannabis arrests by year[edit]

I updated the source table here:

File:U.S. cannabis arrests by year.gif

It now has data through 2012. An SVG bar chart or area chart would be nice to have. --Timeshifter (talk) 09:05, 30 August 2014 (UTC)

Done --Delphi234 (talk) 18:59, 30 August 2014 (UTC)

Fantastic! I moved the data sources to the SVG page, and replaced the images on all the Wikipedia pages. --Timeshifter (talk) 22:20, 30 August 2014 (UTC)

It was done with a blank spot for 2013, so you can add it when it is available. Just open the file in any text editor, and copy the last data line, for 2012, replacing the year with 2013, and the data with the data (in thousands) for 2013. For 2014, the chart will need to be rescaled slightly. Delphi234 (talk) 04:56, 31 August 2014 (UTC)

OK. Here is the file in question (for others reading this thread):

File:US Cannabis Arrests.svg --Timeshifter (talk) 06:15, 31 August 2014 (UTC)

And of course when I said "you can add it when it is available", while I was thinking of "Timeshifter", what it applies to is, anyone reading this, or anyone seeing the image. It is just one of many images that has time sensitive data that needs to be updated periodically, and that updating can be done by anyone. Note to developers: The upload screen has a stern warning to include a license, which is useless and not used. Note to anyone uploading a new version of anything: There is not even any place to put in any license information. The warning, "If you do not provide suitable license and source information, your upload will be deleted without further notice. Thank you for your understanding." DOES NOT APPLY. Delphi234 (talk) 17:02, 31 August 2014 (UTC)

SVG optimizer found that works[edit]

Original version did not work on Wikia:

http://cannabis.wikia.com/wiki/File:U.S._cannabis_arrests_by_year.svg

I got an altered version of the SVG image to work on Wikia:

http://cannabis.wikia.com/wiki/File:U.S._cannabis_arrests_by_year._Conservative.svg

Can you make a version of that without transparency?

This explains what I did:

https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User%3ATimeshifter%2FSandbox46&diff=623636963&oldid=623636643

I found this SVG optimizer:

http://petercollingridge.appspot.com/svg_optimiser - then go to the Javascript version:
http://petercollingridge.appspot.com/svg-editor

I pasted in the SVG code from your original image. Then tried different outputs. Only 2 worked: "Conservative" and "Extreme". Both look the same on Wikia. Had the same transparency problem though. --Timeshifter (talk) 23:26, 31 August 2014 (UTC)

There are only three differences that I can see. The xml line at the beginning was removed, "px" was added to the svg line, and the % signs removed. Can you try the file with only one of those changes to see which one is the one that is blocking the file from working on Wikia?

My version:

<?xml version="1.0"?>
        
<svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" height="600" width="800" 
version="1.1" preserveAspectRatio="none" viewBox="0 0 800 600">

<rect width="100%" fill="#fff" height="100%"/>

Your version:

<svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" height="600px" width="800px" 
version="1.1" preserveAspectRatio="none" viewBox="0 0 800 600">

<rect width="100" fill="#fff" height="100"/>

I never use a transparent background because it always causes problems. All of my images draw a white rectangle for the background, and then build the image. You can remove the transparency either by putting the % signs back in or change the 100x100 background to 800x600. Delphi234 (talk) 06:28, 1 September 2014 (UTC)


  <rect width="800" fill="#fff" height="600"/>

Putting the percent signs back did not help. Changing to 800x600 solved the problem! See file history notes here:

http://cannabis.wikia.com/wiki/File:U.S._cannabis_arrests_by_year._Conservative.svg

This did not work here though:

http://cannabis.wikia.com/wiki/File:U.S._cannabis_arrests_by_year.svg

See the file history.

So something else the SVG optimizer did matters --Timeshifter (talk) 11:16, 1 September 2014 (UTC)

Now that you have one that works you can cut and paste sections of it into the one that does not work until you find the line or lines that makes it work. Then put back in everything else to see if that is the only change needed to make it work. And if not, repeat, looking for other changes that are needed. I did notice two other differences. The file that works has these two lines, on line 12 and on line 34. They do not appear to do anything, but could be significant. A capital M takes you to a specific address, a lower case m is a relative move.

12        <path d="m1965 50h49M1965 100"/>

34        <path d="m1965 900v-920M1966 0"/>

Try changing all the lower case m's to upper case M's in the lines that look like this:

          <path d="m1965 50h49"/>
          <path d="m1965 100h49"/>
          <path d="m1965 150h49"/>
          <path d="m1965 200h49"/>
          <path d="m1965 250h49"/>
          <path d="m1965 300h49"/>

and 

              <path d="m1965 900v-920"/>
              <path d="m1966 0v-10"/>
              <path d="m1967 0v-10"/>
              <path d="m1968 0v-10"/>
              <path d="m1969 0v-10"/>
              <path d="m1970 0v-20"/>
              <path d="m1971 0v-10"/>

Changing them to ones that look like this:

          <path d="M1965 50h49"/>
          <path d="M1965 100h49"/>
          <path d="M1965 150h49"/>
          <path d="M1965 200h49"/>
          <path d="M1965 250h49"/>
          <path d="M1965 300h49"/>

and 

              <path d="M1965 900v-920"/>
              <path d="M1966 0v-10"/>
              <path d="M1967 0v-10"/>
              <path d="M1968 0v-10"/>
              <path d="M1969 0v-10"/>
              <path d="M1970 0v-20"/>
              <path d="M1971 0v-10"/>

My guess is that the two changes that are needed is to change 100% to 800 (and 100% to 600), and to change m to M.Delphi234 (talk) 15:17, 1 September 2014 (UTC)

Out of curiosity I added back all the hidden notes from the original file here on the Commons. See the file history here:

http://cannabis.wikia.com/wiki/File:U.S._cannabis_arrests_by_year._Conservative.svg

So hidden notes were never the problem on Wikia.

I don't see a way in the SVG optimizer to allow comments to remain. The most it will do is substitute <#comment/> for comments (the "None" setting that shows up after pasting in the SVG and clicking the "load" button):

http://petercollingridge.appspot.com/svg-editor

<#comment/> breaks the SVG image in Firefox. I get this message in Firefox when I click on the resulting SVG image file:

XML Parsing Error: not well-formed

Line Number 8, Column 4: <#comment/>

---^

When I removed those particular comment tags, Firefox can view the SVG image.

So I uploaded that "None" setting image to Wikia (without the broken comment tags) and it worked immediately without further changes!

http://cannabis.wikia.com/wiki/File:U.S._cannabis_arrests_by_year._None._No_comment_tags.svg

I compared the original Commons SVG code with it in a new sandbox. See new sandbox diff:

https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User%3ATimeshifter%2FSandbox47&diff=623769866&oldid=623769539

The first thing I notice is that, unlike the "conservative" setting, the only thing really changed at the top is the removal of this:

<?xml version="1.0"?>

I assume the other changes at the top are not important.

So something farther down may be causing the problem. I have no clue. I will let you examine this new sandbox diff further before further experimentation on my end.

The 100% fill version of the "conservative" optimization that had transparency problems yesterday now works.

http://images.wikia.com/cannabis/images/archive/9/96/20140901105905%21U.S._cannabis_arrests_by_year._Conservative.svg

I clicked on that version in the file history and it showed up, but it was on a white background page. So I wasn't sure. So I uploaded that version separately and it shows up too:

http://cannabis.wikia.com/wiki/File:20140901105905!U.S._cannabis_arrests_by_year._Conservative.svg

So maybe yesterday there was a time lag before the new version showed up. Or I should have maybe done a ctrl-F5 on the page. I don't know. Mediawiki caching can be weird. --Timeshifter (talk) 22:46, 1 September 2014 (UTC)

So the % is fine, and the m's are fine. Try replacing the lines like this

<text systemLanguage="ar">&#8206;(UCR FBI:الولايات المتحدة القنب الاعتقالات (البيانات</text>

with ones like this

<text systemLanguage="ar">â€Ž(UCR FBI:Ø§Ù„ÙˆÙ„Ø§ÙŠØ§Øª Ø§Ù„Ù…ØªØØ¯Ø© Ø§Ù„Ù‚Ù†Ø¨ Ø§Ù„Ø§Ø¹ØªÙ‚Ø§Ù„Ø§Øª (Ø§Ù„Ø¨ÙŠØ§Ù†Ø§Øª</text>

Maybe it just does not like the ‎ (used in four places). Or can not parse the Unicode. Delphi234 (talk) 22:53, 1 September 2014 (UTC)

I tried a couple edits of your original file. I just removed the top line <?xml version="1.0"?> and &#8206. I uploaded that slightly edited file:

http://cannabis.wikia.com/wiki/File:U.S._cannabis_arrests_by_year._8206_and_xml_version_removed.svg

It does not work. So I am thinking that the format changes in the most basic optimization ("none" setting) are not just cosmetic.

I could see how formatting might matter with keeping LTR and RTL languages clear. I notice that the optimized version separates language stuff to many more lines.

I use Notepad++ and until I learned to set it globally (style configurator in settings menu) to use a good unicode font such as Lucida Sans Unicode I had problems editing some things such as wikitext I copied from Wikipedia, Commons, etc.. I couldn't see some fonts without using Lucida Sans Unicode. I see all the fonts clearly in the wikitext of all the SVG arrests files on the Commons and Wikia.

I also tried removing the additional languages:

http://cannabis.wikia.com/wiki/File:U.S._cannabis_arrests_by_year._8206,_languages,_and_xml_version_removed.svg

It does not work. So I am thinking the non-language formatting in the most basic optimization ("none" setting) matters. At least on some sites outside Wikimedia.

The weird thing with all the problem SVG files on Wikia is that they are visible when clicking on the placeholder links on Wikia. The images just won't show up clearly without the formatting. --Timeshifter (talk) 01:19, 2 September 2014 (UTC)

┌─────────────────────────────────┘
Well the thing to do is start with a version that works and cut and paste into it small or large sections of the original until you paste in a section that makes it not work. Then you can narrow that down to the specific reason it makes it not work. Mostly the "optimizer" just takes out comments and white space, though. But for some reason it likes to put text on their own line. Maybe that is what is making it not work, the formatting of the text elements. Delphi234 (talk) 02:19, 2 September 2014 (UTC)

There is nothing surprising about them being visible when you click on he placeholder link - when you do that you are opening the raw file, whatever format it is, directly into your browser. All modern browsers can render SVG - and do not have as much trouble doing it as Wikia does! There are distinct variations between how a browser renders a file and how Commons/Wikipedia renders it - you can develop a file that looks fine in your browser, but when you upload it into commons it has a problem. Just not as many problems as you are seeing on Wikia. Delphi234 (talk) 04:01, 2 September 2014 (UTC)

It just gets weirder and weirder. Here is the diff between your original file that still does not work on Wikia (I uploaded it separately again today), and the conservatively optimized file after adding old parts back bit by bit. It looks like some truly minor format changes are responsible for success at Wikia.

https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User%3ATimeshifter%2FSandbox48&diff=623826897&oldid=623823602

I need to report this to Wikia staff too. Later when I get more time.

Here is the file that works after adding all the old parts back bit by bit:

http://cannabis.wikia.com/wiki/File:Arrests_%2B_old_path_transform,_languages,_vertical_ticks,_horizontal_gridlines,_percentage_no,_x-axis,_top.svg

--Timeshifter (talk) 08:15, 2 September 2014 (UTC)

Is this the only difference?

Does not work:

100          <path d="m1965 0h49"/>
101
102          </g>

Works:

100        <path d="m1965 0h49"/>
101      </g>

-- Delphi234 (talk) 11:29, 2 September 2014 (UTC)

Nope. Uploaded it. Didn't work. It's your turn now to try out stuff. :) --Timeshifter (talk) 14:27, 2 September 2014 (UTC)

Nothing to try - it already works on Commons/Wikipedia. This is a Wikia issue. But what I will do is upload the working version just so that no one else who wants to use it has that problem. But let me know when you find out what the problem is. I count 15 changes between the working version and the non-working version. I am pretty sure that adding a space in front of the comments did not make it work, as only some of them have that. There is also the possibility of hidden characters that are not visible, but hopefully that is not the issue, and I am not sure how they would have gotten into the file - unless they have always been in the file. Can you upload the file this was copied from to see if it also does not work? File:Global Wind Power Cumulative Capacity.svg Delphi234 (talk) 15:06, 2 September 2014 (UTC)

I have followed your lead, and uploaded the working version with the least changes from your original file:

http://cannabis.wikia.com/wiki/File:Arrests_%2B_old_path_transform,_languages,_vertical_ticks,_horizontal_gridlines,_percentage_no,_x-axis,_top.svg

I uploaded it here:

http://cannabis.wikia.com/wiki/File:U.S._cannabis_arrests_by_year.svg

I moved all the test files into this category:

http://cannabis.wikia.com/wiki/Category:SVG_tests._Cannabis_arrests

The main SVG images category is still this one:

http://cannabis.wikia.com/wiki/Category:SVG_images

Feel free to run as many SVG tests as you want on the Cannabis Wiki. I am the bureaucrat admin there. Top dog ;)

You don't have to bother cleaning up or categorizing your tests. I will categorize them in the SVG tests folder, or in subcategories:

http://cannabis.wikia.com/wiki/Category:SVG_tests

You can create subcategories, too, and move stuff around as you please.

I sent a message to Wikia about the SVG problems via Special:Contact:

http://cannabis.wikia.com/wiki/Special:Contact/bug

I linked to this discussion too.

--Timeshifter (talk) 03:16, 3 September 2014 (UTC)

File:Early voting US states.svg[edit]

File:Early voting US states.svg - Would you update it, please? I found a newer map here:

http://www.ncsl.org/research/elections-and-campaigns/absentee-and-early-voting.aspx

Firefox tells me it is an SVG file being used for that map. Though I am not sure how it is embedded. Beyond me. In Firefox, right click that map and "inspect element".

Maybe you can change it enough to avoid copyright problems, and use it to update the Commons file. I would like to use that SVG map here and there once it is updated. --Timeshifter (talk) 18:09, 12 September 2014 (UTC)

Data can not be copyrighted. I am not sure how that map is being coded in javascript, but the data can be transferred to the map we have. But lets ask Libertyernie2 if they would like to update it. I tend to hold off on updating images that have been recently updated by someone else. There are plenty to do that are more years out of date. On second thought, if they do not respond in a week I will do it - there are elections coming up soon in the United States. Delphi234 (talk) 20:34, 12 September 2014 (UTC)

Great. I like the 2-letter state codes on the map. --Timeshifter (talk) 00:08, 13 September 2014 (UTC)

Done. Let me know if I made any mistakes. Delphi234 (talk) 22:41, 19 September 2014 (UTC)

Thanks! I updated the dates on the English Wikipedia pages it is being used on. --Timeshifter (talk) 17:51, 20 September 2014 (UTC)

What happened to "as of" on this page?[8] Delphi234 (talk) 21:08, 20 September 2014 (UTC)

That's funny on so many levels. :) --Timeshifter (talk) 22:29, 20 September 2014 (UTC)

Took care of it. Forgot about your situation. --Timeshifter (talk) 22:41, 20 September 2014 (UTC)

Hopefully soon to be a thing of the past. I just noticed the "standard offer", and will be requesting that. I definitely qualify. Delphi234 (talk) 23:48, 20 September 2014 (UTC)

Alcala_de_Henares_population_growth.svg[edit]

Hola Delphi234:

¿Por qué el fichero "File:Alcala de Henares population growth.svg" aparece en inglés, y cuando le digo que me enseñe la versión original sale en español? Un cordial saludo:--Raimundo Pastor (talk) 11:12, 20 September 2014 (UTC)

(translation) Why the file "File: Alcala de Henares growth.svg population" is in English, and when I say show me the original version comes out in Spanish? Regards:

The original that I used to create that, File:Alcala de Henares (Spain)-demography-fr.svg was in French. I combined the French version with the Spanish version into a new file, and translated it into English to create the new file, which can also be translated into any other language. Your browser may be set to Spanish as a language so the file displays in Spanish for you. The file can be used in any of the available languages by adding |lang=xx after the file name. I am not exactly sure I know what you are doing when you "cuando le digo que me enseñe la versión original".

(translation) El original que he utilizado para crear que, File:Alcala de Henares (Spain)-demography-fr.svg estaba en francés. Combiné la versión francesa con la versión española en un nuevo archivo, y traduje al Inglés para crear el nuevo archivo, que también puede ser traducido a cualquier otro idioma. Su navegador puede ser configurado para español como lengua así el archivo se muestra en español para ti. El archivo puede ser utilizado en cualquiera de los idiomas disponibles agregando | lang = xx después de que el nombre del archivo. No estoy exactamente seguro de lo que está haciendo cuando usted "cuando le digo que me enseñe la versión original". Delphi234 (talk) 14:21, 20 September 2014 (UTC)

The languages that file was initially available in are:

ar السكان
de Bevölkerung
en Population
es Población
fi Väestö
fr Habitants
it Popolazione
ja 人口
nl Bevolking
pl Ludność
pt População
ru Население
sv Befolkning
zh 人口

But any other language can easily be added. Delphi234 (talk) 14:37, 20 September 2014 (UTC)

United States per capita energy use 1650-2010[edit]

Hi Delphi, I was just wondering where the information for this graph originated (located at: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Energy_in_the_United_States). Thanks!! Adrianturcato (talk) 12:02, 27 September 2014 (UTC)

The energy use came from the EIA Annual Energy Review, 1645-1945 Page 345 or the spreadsheet, 1950-2010 Page 3 or the spreadsheet. Population was from census reports. Delphi234 (talk) 14:00, 27 September 2014 (UTC)

U.S. unemployment rate under President Obama[edit]

File:U.S. unemployment rate under President Obama.gif

Would you please make an SVG file? Source is easy to use:

http://data.bls.gov/timeseries/LNS14000000

Pick starting year (2009) and graph is created. With data table below. And link to xlsx file. --Timeshifter (talk) 16:19, 5 October 2014 (UTC)

@Timeshifter: What about

US Unemployment measures.svg

?--Kopiersperre (talk) 22:24, 5 October 2014 (UTC)

I just want the years under Obama. Just the main unemployment rate that is used in news reports. --Timeshifter (talk) 04:00, 6 October 2014 (UTC)

Done. Presidents have little to nothing to do with unemployment, but what does? When I look at the image from 1948 to 2014 my only comment is, "well the lights are on, but no one is at home". The Congress, of course, is the only factor that affects the economy - the President can only implement what is passed by the Congress. Presidents do, though, get elected because of the economy (it's the economy, stupid). But clearly not only do we have a completely dysfunctional Congress today, but have never had a functional Congress since 1953, when unemployment was allowed to skyrocket from 2.5% to 6.1% in 1954. You would think the Congress was only working for the millionaires who elect them, and not for the public. Oh wait, that is what they are doing... Delphi234 (talk) 07:48, 6 October 2014 (UTC)

Thanks! File:US unemployment rate under President Obama.svg

I substituted the SVG for the GIF in this article: en:Unemployment in the United States.

In my opinion economy is simple. Capitalism concentrates wealth. So progressive taxation is a necessity. Along with an adequate minimum wage. If money is constantly recycled by effective, no-loophole progressive taxation, then people have money to spend, the economy works, and unemployment is low. Government spending should be kept to a minimum. So more money goes to individuals to keep the economy running. Exceptions are things such as food stamps, workfare, and single-payer universal healthcare. Single-payer universal healthcare is the most efficient. No one should starve or be unhealthy. Workfare works. When unemployed people do work that the government assigns within their health capabilities. --Timeshifter (talk) 18:00, 6 October 2014 (UTC)

I could not agree more. We do need a WPA. There is no excuse for anyone to be out of work for longer than a week. But the idea of "requiring work to receive welfare" is only something that someone with rocks for brains would propose. Buckminster Fuller got it right in en:Operating Manual for Spaceship Earth. Just give everyone unemployed a fellowship of about 25% of the median wage (let them keep the first 10% of median they earn, then reduce the fellowship by 50 cents for each additional dollar earned, so that by the time they are making 60% of median they are on their own), and for every 100,000 fellowships, one person will do something that will pay for the other 99,999. It would not even require any additional paperwork to implement it, other than reporting hires/firings - every company already reports quarterly earnings for everyone - and if you are self employed, you have to file that yourself. Right now a large percentage of the population is paid under the table to avoid the FICA tax, but if you were getting it all back because of the fellowship, there would be little incentive to do that. Delphi234 (talk) 21:48, 6 October 2014 (UTC)

I did not propose it, but I was on it for awhile. Of course many people are too disabled to work at all. And requiring work for them would just be cruel, and a death sentence since they would starve unless they begged, or had someone to take care of them. Bucky's idea would probably save money over workfare since workfare requires a bureaucracy. --Timeshifter (talk) 00:01, 7 October 2014 (UTC)

(unindent). This SVG image worked on Wikia!:

http://cannabis.wikia.com/wiki/File:US_unemployment_rate_under_President_Obama.svg

--Timeshifter (talk) 00:57, 7 October 2014 (UTC)

On the other hand, since 1950, the unemployment rate has always increased if the President was a Republican and has always decreased if a Democrat. All of the Democrats except for Carter have steadily decreased unemployment. Carter fired his entire cabinet in 1979, and perhaps that is why unemployment got out of control then. The Republicans appear to have no interest in unemployment and just let it swing wildly. Delphi234 (talk) 22:11, 7 October 2014 (UTC)

File:Africa Precipitation Map-sr.svg[edit]

Dear Delphi,

such a good map is until now only available in Српски – May you create a switch-translated version of this map?--Kopiersperre (talk) 19:57, 6 October 2014 (UTC)

Done --Delphi234 (talk) 05:27, 7 October 2014 (UTC)

Thank you--Kopiersperre (talk) 16:01, 7 October 2014 (UTC)

Minimum wage map of the United States[edit]

Minimum wages are on the ballot in some states, and will continue to be an issue. I would like an SVG map that has the legend on the map itself. That way the map image can be used by itself anywhere. I like the simplicity of the legend on this map:

File:State min wage.png - 2-letter state abbreviations would be nice too for all the states. As on that other SVG map you did: File:Early voting US states.svg

Here are some useful links:

http://www.dol.gov/whd/minwage/america.htm - source map with data below. Up to date.
w:Minimum wage in the United States
Category:Minimum wage maps of the United States
w:List of minimum wages by country
w:Minimum wage

2014 relevance of map:

--Timeshifter (talk) 05:10, 10 October 2014 (UTC)

Done. With state abbreviations and without state abbreviations. Delphi234 (talk) 19:13, 10 October 2014 (UTC)

Thanks! Fantastic. I was able to upload the SVG file to Wikia too:

http://cannabis.wikia.com/wiki/File:US_minimum_wage_comparison_by_state.svg

But it needs the transparency removed. So I used a gif version:

http://cannabis.wikia.com/wiki/File:US_minimum_wage_comparison_by_state.gif --Timeshifter (talk) 21:23, 10 October 2014 (UTC)

Done. Delphi234 (talk) 23:34, 10 October 2014 (UTC)

Thanks again. I uploaded the new version of the SVG to Wikia, and substituted it for the gif. --Timeshifter (talk) 01:49, 11 October 2014 (UTC)

Inquiry[edit]

Dear Delphi, may you include switch translations into File:Turbines impulse v reaction.svg?

English	German	French
Impulse turbine	Gleichdruckturbine	Turbines à action
Reaction turbine	Überdruckturbine	Turbine à réaction
Moving buckets	Bewegliche Schaufeln	Ailettes mobiles
Fixed nozzle	Feste Düse	Buse fixe
Moving nozzle	Bewegliche Düse	Buse mobile
~~Steam~~ Pressure	~~Dampf~~Druck	Pression ~~de vapeur~~
~~Steam~~ Velocity	~~Dampf~~Geschwindigkeit	Vitesse ~~de vapeur~~
Rotor	?	?
Stator	?	?
Rotation	?	?

--Kopiersperre (talk) 13:44, 14 October 2014 (UTC

Done Delphi234 (talk) 01:06, 15 October 2014 (UTC)

Thanks. Because this classification is also known for water turbines Steam should be removed.--Kopiersperre (talk) 21:44, 15 October 2014 (UTC)

Is the pressure diagram correct for a hydraulic fluid? Water is incompressible. Delphi234 (talk) 00:42, 16 October 2014 (UTC)

The density, but not the pressure of incompressible fluids is constant--Kopiersperre (talk) 11:51, 16 October 2014 (UTC)

Cutting axises[edit]

Dear Delphi,

in my opinion cutted axises are wrong. May you create an "uncut" version of File:Belarus population.svg?--Kopiersperre (talk) 23:52, 16 October 2014 (UTC)

I am not sure what you are referring to. I have occasionally had trouble with that SVG generation application not correctly locating data, but here is the data (in millions): Delphi234 (talk) 05:01, 17 October 2014 (UTC)

   1960     8.190113
   1961     8.274578
   1962     8.357056
   1963     8.438641
   1964     8.521541
   1965     8.607137
   1966     8.695532
   1967     8.785232
   1968     8.874173
   1969     8.959621
   1970     9.039648
   1971     9.113605
   1972     9.182128
   1973     9.246214
   1974     9.307456
   1975     9.367178
   1976     9.425264
   1977     9.481733
   1978     9.538216
   1979     9.596753
   1980     9.658658
   1981     9.724027
   1982     9.791955
   1983     9.861395
   1984     9.930816
   1985     9.998629
   1986     10.065016
   1987     10.128929
   1988     10.186074
   1989     10.230977
   1990     10.259860
   1991     10.270813
   1992     10.265144
   1993     10.246346
   1994     10.219676
   1995     10.189075
   1996     10.156258
   1997     10.120556
   1998     10.080772
   1999     10.034775
   2000     9.981460
   2001     9.920173
   2002     9.852866
   2003     9.784111
   2004     9.719991
   2005     9.664714
   2006     9.620359
   2007     9.585368
   2008     9.555801
   2009     9.525785
   2010     9.491070

I meant that you please let the y-axis begin with 0 and not with 8000--Kopiersperre (talk) 10:02, 23 October 2014 (UTC)

Yes, but in a new chart. You lose a lot of resolution by doing that. Almost all of these charts were done with zoomed in scales and I have just been adding current data without changing the format of the charts. Delphi234 (talk) 00:57, 24 October 2014 (UTC)

File:Belarus population chart.svg Delphi234 (talk) 04:37, 24 October 2014 (UTC)

Thank you very much. I just believe personally, that cutting axises is not a good style.--Kopiersperre (talk) 15:20, 28 October 2014 (UTC)

It certainly hides the fact that there was little change, but both views have significant purposes. Delphi234 (talk) 22:34, 29 October 2014 (UTC)

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