Wikipedia:Requested moves
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Requested moves is a process for requesting the retitling (moving) of an article, template, or project page on Wikipedia. (For retitling files, categories and other items, see When not to use this page.) Please read our article titling policy and our guideline regarding primary topics before moving a page or requesting a page move.
Any autoconfirmed user can use the Move function to perform most moves (see Help:How to move a page). If you have no reason to expect a dispute concerning a move, be bold and move the page. However, it may not always be possible or desirable to do this:
- Technical reasons may prevent a move, such as when a page may already exist at the target title and require deletion, or if the page to be moved is protected from moves. In these circumstances, administrator help is required to move a page, see below: § Requesting technical moves.
- A title may be subject to dispute, and discussion may be necessary in order to reach consensus, see below: § Requesting controversial and potentially controversial moves. It is not always necessary to use the requested move process in these circumstances: one option is to start an informal discussion at the article's talk page instead.
- Unregistered users and new (not yet autoconfirmed) users do not have the capability to move pages. They must request moves using this process.
Most move requests are processed by a group of regular contributors who are familiar with Wikipedia naming conventions, non-binding precedents, and page moving procedures. Requests are generally processed after seven days, although backlogs often develop. If there is a clear consensus after this time, or if the requested move is uncontroversial or technical, the request will be closed and acted upon. If not, the closer may choose to re-list the request to allow more time for consensus to develop, or close it as "no consensus". For the processes involved in closing requests, performing moves, and cleaning up after moves, see Wikipedia:Requested moves/Closing instructions. For a list of all processed moves, see Special:Log/move.
The Move review process can be used to contest a move. It is designed to evaluate a contested close of a move discussion to determine if the close was reasonable, or whether it was inconsistent with the spirit and intent of Wikipedia common practice, policies, or guidelines.
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When not to use this page[edit]
Separate processes exist for moving certain types of pages, and for changes other than page moves:
- Making an uncontroversial move – if you can, do it yourself! If you can't, see § Requesting technical moves.
- Renaming a category – propose the move at Wikipedia:Categories for discussion.
- Renaming a stub template – propose the move at Wikipedia:Categories for discussion.
- Renaming an image or other file – see Wikipedia:Moving a page § Moving a file page.
- Moves from draft namespace or user space – (new/unconfirmed users only) add
{{subst:submit}}to the top of the article. - Merging two articles – make a request at Wikipedia:Proposed mergers, or be bold and do it yourself.
- Requesting that page histories be merged – list them at Wikipedia:Requests for history merge.
- Contesting a move request close – use the Wikipedia:Move review process.
Undiscussed moves[edit]
Anyone can be bold and move a page without discussing it first and gaining an explicit consensus on the talk page. If you consider such a move to be controversial, and the new title has not been in place for a long time, you may revert the move. If you cannot revert the move for technical reasons then you may request a technical move.
Move wars are disruptive, so if you make a bold move and it is reverted, do not make the move again. Instead, follow the procedures laid out in § Requesting controversial and potentially controversial moves.
Requesting technical moves[edit]
The discussion process is used for potentially controversial moves. If any of the following apply to a desired move, treat it as potentially controversial:
- There is an existing article (not just a redirect) at the target title;
- There has been any past debate about the best title for the page;
- Someone could reasonably disagree with the move.
If a desired move is uncontroversial and technical in nature (e.g. spelling), please feel free to move the page yourself. If the page has recently been moved without discussion, you may revert the move and initiate a discussion on its talk page. In either case, if you are unable to complete the move, request it below.
- To list a technical request, go to the bottom of this section that you are reading right now; edit the subsection Uncontroversial technical requests; insert the following code at the top:
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{{subst:RMassist|<!--old page name, without brackets-->|<!--requested name, without brackets-->|reason= <!--reason for move-->}}
- This will automatically insert a bullet and include your signature. Please do not edit the article's talk page.
- If you object to a proposal listed in the uncontroversial technical requests section, please move it to the Contested technical requests section.
- If your technical request is contested by another editor, please remove it from the contested technical requests section and follow the instructions at Requesting potentially controversial moves.
- Alternatively, if the only obstacle to an uncontroversial move is another page in the way, you can ask for the deletion of the other page. This may apply, for example, if the other page is currently a redirect to the article to be moved, a redirect with no incoming links, or an unnecessary disambiguation page with a minor edit history. To request the other page be deleted, add the following code to the top of the page that is in the way:
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{{db-move|<!--page to be moved here-->|<!--reason for move-->}}
- This will list the undesired page for deletion under criterion for speedy deletion G6. If the page is a redirect, place the code above the redirection. For a list of articles being considered for uncontroversial speedy deletion, see Category:Candidates for uncontroversial speedy deletion.
Uncontroversial technical requests[edit]
Contested technical requests[edit]
Requests to revert undiscussed moves[edit]
Requesting controversial and potentially controversial moves[edit]
Use this process if there is any reason to believe a move would be contested. For technical move requests (e.g. spelling and capitalization fixes), see Requesting technical moves.
Do not put more than one open move request on the same article talk page, because this is not supported by the bot that handles updates to this page. Multiple closed move requests may be on the same page, but each should have a unique section heading.
Requesting a single page move[edit]
(To propose moving more than one page—for example, moving a disambiguation page in order to move another page to that title—see "Requesting multiple page moves" below.)
To request a single page move, edit at the bottom of the talk page of the article you want moved, using this format:
{{subst:Requested move|NewName|reason=Place here your rationale for the proposed page name change, ideally referring to applicable naming convention policies and guidelines, and providing evidence in support where appropriate. If your reasoning includes search engine results, please present Google Books or Google News Archive results before providing other web results. Do not sign this.}}
Replace NewName with the requested new name of the page (or with a question mark, if you want more than one possible new name to be considered). Leave the Subject/headline blank, as the template automatically creates the heading "Requested move 20 October 2015". Do not sign a request with ~~~~ as the template does this automatically. The template must be substituted.
Use the code |talk=yes to add separate locations for survey and discussion.
Note: Unlike certain other request processes on Wikipedia, nominations need not be neutral. Strive to make your point as best you can; use evidence (such as Ngrams and pageview statistics) and make reference to applicable policies and guidelines, especially our article titling policy and the guideline on disambiguation and primary topic. After the nomination has been made, nominators may nevertheless add a separate bullet point to support their nomination, but should add "as nominator" (for example, * '''Rename, as nominator''': ...). Most nominators, however, simply allow the nomination itself to indicate what their opinion is. Nominators may also participate in the discussion along with everyone else, and often should.
RMCD bot notifies any Wikiproject listed on the talk page of the article to be moved to invite project members to participate in the RM discussion. Requesters should feel free to notify any other Wikiproject or Noticeboard that might be interested in the move request.
Requesting multiple page moves[edit]
A single template may be used to request multiple related moves. On one of the talk pages of the affected articles, create a request and format it as below. A sample request for three page moves is shown here (for two page moves, omit the lines for current3 and new3). For four page moves, add lines for current4 and new4, and so on. There is no technical limit on the number of multiple move requests, but before requesting very large multi-moves, consider whether a naming convention should be changed first. Discuss that change on the talk page for the naming convention, e.g., Wikipedia talk:Naming conventions (sportspeople).
{{subst:requested move
| new1 = New title for page 1 with the talk page hosting this discussion
| current2 = Current title of page 2
| new2 = New title for page 2
| current3 = Current title of page 3
| new3 = New title for page 3
| reason = Place here your rationale for the proposed page name change, ideally referring to applicable naming convention policies and guidelines, and providing evidence in support where appropriate. If your reasoning includes search engine results, please default to Google Books or Google News Archive before providing any web results. Do not sign this.}}
For example, to propose moving the articles Wikipedia and Wiki, put this template on Talk:Wikipedia, and replace current2 with Wiki. The discussion for all affected articles is held on the talk page of the article at page 1 (Talk:Wikipedia). Do not sign a request with ~~~~ as the template does this automatically. Do not skip pairs of numbers.
RMCD bot automatically places a notice section on the talk page of the additional pages that are included in your request, advising that the move discussion is in progress, where it is, and that all discussion for all pages included in the request should take place at that one location.
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Wikipedia:Requested moves → new – why Example (talk) 09:48, 20 October 2015 (UTC) |
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| {{subst:Requested move|?|reason=why}} |
Wikipedia:Requested moves → ? – why Example (talk) 09:48, 20 October 2015 (UTC) |
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| {{subst:Requested move |new|reason=why|talk=yes}} |
Wikipedia:Requested moves → new – why Example (talk) 09:48, 20 October 2015 (UTC) Survey[edit]
Discussion[edit]
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| {{subst:Requested move |new1=x|current2=y|new2=z|reason=why}} |
– why Example (talk) 09:48, 20 October 2015 (UTC) |
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Closing instructions[edit]
Any uninvolved editor in good standing may close a move request, and more closers of move requests are needed, but there are certain procedures that need to be followed. Please read our closing instructions for information on how to close a move request.
Relisting[edit]
Relisting a discussion moves the request out of the backlog up to the current day in order to encourage further input. The decision to relist a discussion is best left to uninvolved experienced editors upon considering, but declining, to close the discussion. Preferably, a reason for the relist will be given. When a relisted discussion reaches a resolution, it may be closed at any time according to the closing instructions.
To relist a move request discussion, simply type <small>'''Relisted'''. ~~~~</small> after the initial request. This can also be done by using {{subst:Relisting}}, which signs the relisting automatically. The RMCD bot uses the new timestamp to relist the entry on this page.
If discussion has become stale, or it seems that discussion would benefit from more input of editors versed in the subject area, consider more widely publicizing the discussion. One option is to notify relevant WikiProjects of the discussion using the template {{RM notification}}. Applicable WikiProjects can often be determined by means of the banners placed at the top of the talk page hosting the move request.
Current discussions[edit]
- This section lists all requests filed or identified as potentially controversial which are currently under discussion.
| Do not attempt to edit this list manually; a bot will automatically update the page soon after the {{subst:Requested move}} template is added to the discussion on the relevant talk page. The entry is removed automatically soon after the discussion is closed. To make a change to an entry, make the change on the linked talk page. |
This list is also available in a page-link-first format.
October 20, 2015[edit]
- (Discuss) – Adam and the Amethysts → Adam Waito – A side-project that appears to fail WP:MUSIC, but by transferring it to Adam Waito (now a redirect) further details can be added to increase the presence. The content of the article is essentially about Waito himself already. Karst (talk) 13:01, 12 October 2015 (UTC) Relisted. Jenks24 (talk) 09:11, 20 October 2015 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – List of minor characters in Beavis and Butt-head → List of Beavis and Butt-head characters –
The current article is a list for minor Beavis and Butt-head characters. Several recurring characters are repeatedly mentioned within article, e.g. Principal McVicker, but do not have a place within the list of characters. By renaming the article from "minor characters" to just plain "characters," e.g. List of Blackadder characters, will open the article for inclusion of all Beavis and Butt-head characters, and the article can be subdivided to separate major recurring characters such as Principal McVicker, from minor characters, all listed on the same article. I have attempted the move myself, however, the move was denied because "The page could not be moved: a page of that name already exists, or the name you have chosen is not valid." I need assistance in order to improve the article through the requested name change; thank you for your assistance.
Christopher, Salem, OR (talk) 06:25, 20 October 2015 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Russian military intervention in the Syrian Civil War → Russian intervention in Syria – The majority voted for change last time, but the RM was closed due to unilateral page moves. DylanLacey (talk) 12:51, 12 October 2015 (UTC) --Relisted. George Ho (talk) 04:51, 20 October 2015 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Countess Marianne Bernadotte of Wisborg → Marianne Bernadotte – Simplest solution is what she uses herself, as known at svWP; confusion about her names & titles recently cleared up with best government sources now published online; name "Bernadotte of Wisborg" does not actually exist anywhere legally, she is countess of Wisborg, also legally has title in the Luxembourg nobility as Princess Bernadotte but rarely uses it. SergeWoodzing (talk) 16:38, 12 October 2015 (UTC) --Relisted. George Ho (talk) 04:49, 20 October 2015 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Sóley (musician) → Sóley – No other pages named "Sóley" on Wikipedia, the Sóley article just redirects back to this one. The "(musician)" is unecessary. { [ ( jjj 1238 ) ] } 01:15, 20 October 2015 (UTC)
October 19, 2015[edit]
- (Discuss) – Incorporation of Tibet into the People's Republic of China → Annexation of Tibet by the People's Republic of China – Google Scholar and Google Books search results with appropriate phrases clearly indicate that the dominant scholarly usage (in English) describes the operation that led to Chinese government power over Tibet as an "annexation," not an "incorporation." A Google Scholar search for "Incorporation of Tibet" gets 154 results; a search for "annexation of Tibet" gets 402 results. A Google Books search with the phrase "incorporation of Tibet" and "China" turns up 1,430 results; a search for the phrase "annexation of Tibet" and "China" turns up 3,640 results. Using a term that suggests smooth integration rather than conquest is not a legitimate way to resolve POV issues, since it favours a certain view (to test your intuition on this, consider an unambiguous case of conquest of your choice and imagine labeling it as an "incorporation"). This page should be labelled according to the dominant scholarly formulation, as an "annexation," not an "incorporation." Human fella (talk) 11:24, 9 October 2015 (UTC) Relisted. Jenks24 (talk) 14:08, 19 October 2015 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Historical basis for King Arthur → Historicity of King Arthur – In the interests of WP:CONSISTENCY, this is the only article named "Historical basis for" something. Unless there's a nuance between "Historical basis for" and "Historicity of" that I'm overlooking, I suggest bringing this title in line with Historicity of Jesus and Historicity of Muhammad. These seem to be the only directly comparable articles, and this one is in Category:Historicity already. --BDD (talk) 13:42, 19 October 2015 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Momofuku-Milk Bar → Momofuku Milk Bar – This page was created with a typo in the title, and on move I noticed there was actually an existing redirect with a previous deletion decision (seemingly made without any discussion.) Looking at the old redirect, the original article was started from a request at WikiProject: Food and Drink. This bakery has received plenty of coverage in national news sources, and the head chef has produced two cookbooks based on the desserts, so I'm surprised at the previous deletion-without-discussion. I'd like to move the article to the correct spelling, but want to acknowledge that it's potentially controversial due to the previous deletion decision. In full disclosure I am a campus ambassador that helped the student that wrote the current Momofuku-Milk Bar. AmandaRR123 (talk) 13:31, 19 October 2015 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Faisal Qureshi → Faysal Qureshi – His correct name is spelled as Faysal Qureshi which can be seen on IMDb, his official Facebook page, Twitter profile and in newspapers articles. In many places his name is spelled as Faisal Qureshi which is incorrect. His correct name Faysal Qureshi can be verified.
There are three famous people named Faisal Qureshi in Pakistan.
1. Faysal Qureshi - Actor
2. Faisal Qureshi (comedian) - Comedian
3. Faisal Qureshi - activist.
So, This page should be moved to Faysal Qureshi and Faisal Qureshi (comedian) should be moved here.
Thank You Musa Talk 12:05, 19 October 2015 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – The Dark Fields → Limitless (novel) – Shall we rename it Limitless? Since the film adaptation, the publishers decided to rename it Limitless to attract readers more. George Ho (talk) 05:50, 30 September 2015 (UTC) --Relisted. Natg 19 (talk) 19:41, 9 October 2015 (UTC) Relisted. Jenks24 (talk) 09:43, 19 October 2015 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Omar Khayyám → Omar Khayyam – WP:COMMONNAME, as per Google Ngram. In Google Books, "Omar Khayyám" gets only about 25,200 results, while "Omar Khayyam" gets about 998,000 results. The proposed title "Omar Khayyam" is about 400 times more common in reliable sources. Khestwol (talk) 09:42, 19 October 2015 (UTC) Khestwol (talk) 09:42, 19 October 2015 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Blintz → Blini – As many users have previously mentioned on this talk page, current title is misleading. Far more Google search results for "blini" as opposed to "blintz." "Blintz" is hardly even mentioned in the article itself anymore. Oneforfortytwo (talk) 04:48, 11 October 2015 (UTC) Relisted. Jenks24 (talk) 09:12, 19 October 2015 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Red River of the North → Red River (Lake Winnipeg) – The WP:COMMONNAME of both rivers is simply "Red River." Most locals of both rivers probably don't even know there's another river with the same name. Most maps (if not, all the maps I've looked at) simply use "Red River" when labeling them. The only time these rivers are referred to as such is when there might be confusion, but even then, that's rare. -- Tavix (talk) 23:34, 8 October 2015 (UTC) Relisted. Jenks24 (talk) 08:38, 19 October 2015 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Solutions Architect → Solution Architect – As User:Eeeuk and User:Skipjacker clearly explained, in the earliest talk page entries, the discipline is singular and the convention for <anything> Architect is to use the singular. This is very clearly supported by the Google ngrams for both the discipline's and the practitioner's terms, as seen [here] and, especially, [here], which clearly show the singular is much more common than the plural in the literature. Dhugot (talk) 05:13, 11 October 2015 (UTC) --Relisted. sst✈ 08:13, 19 October 2015 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Pop Songs (Billboard chart) → Pop Songs – I know I proposed a move to an alternative title two years ago, but that was only because it seemed the most convenient title at the time. Now, the most convenient title appears to be this one, which already redirects here anyway. Unreal7 (talk) 09:51, 11 October 2015 (UTC) --Relisted. sst✈ 08:10, 19 October 2015 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Tai, Rivers → Tai (local government area) – Numerous reliable sources have refererred to this place as Tai local government area or Tai (local government area), hardly ever read where it has been called Tai, Rivers. Here are some instances where Tai local government area has been mentioned; 1, 2, 3 and more. Stanleytux (talk) 11:10, 27 September 2015 (UTC) --Relisted. George Ho (talk) 07:18, 8 October 2015 (UTC) Relisted. Jenks24 (talk) 08:10, 19 October 2015 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Prince Gong (Qing dynasty) → Yixin, Prince Gong – The current title is imprecise, as there were other "Prince Gong"s in Qing dynasty, e.g. Changning (prince), Yuzhan etc. The Yixin, Prince Gong title would also be consistent with other Qing dynasty princes such as Yinzhi, Prince Cheng, Yinzhi, Prince Zhi, Yongqi, Prince Rong etc. Personally I would have preferred just Yixin, which also redirects to the page because it's WP:PRECISE and WP:NATURAL but there had been a discussion against it at Wikipedia_talk:Naming_conventions_(Chinese)/Archive_13#Late_Qing_Dynasty_Princely_titles. Timmyshin (talk) 04:53, 8 October 2015 (UTC) Relisted. Jenks24 (talk) 08:01, 19 October 2015 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Wang Zhiwei (sport shooter) → Wang Zhiwei – The user who moved this page here gave the rationale that "There are now two people named Wang Zhiwei on Wikipedia, none are primary". On the contrary, I would argue that this person is the WP:PRIMARYTOPIC, as he seems to be a notable shooter, who has won medals in various competitions (see sport shooting pages here: 1, 2). Also, the other page is currently titled Charles Wang (physician), so it is already disambiguated. Hatnotes would suffice in distinguishing the two people. On second look, it is also not apparently if Charles Wang is notable, but that can be left to another discussion. Natg 19 (talk) 07:47, 19 October 2015 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – The Son Also Rises → The Son Also Rises (Battlestar Galactica) – Format used in other Battlestar Galactica episodes when the title is also used elsewhere. In this case, a notable newish book The Son Also Rises (book) shares the title. I do not think that a Galactica episode should be the primary. The book, a highly creative and widely cited piece of research that has also gotten the attention of general readers, could be the primary, or, if there does not need to be a primary, both can have these name, this name/location used as a disambigulation page. E.M.Gregory (talk) 00:01, 7 October 2015 (UTC) Relisted. Jenks24 (talk) 07:45, 19 October 2015 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Dehesa (pastoral management) → Montado – Portuguese term montado seems to be somewhat more common in English literature (see below) than Spanish dehesa. It also has an advantage of being unambiguous, so WP:NATURALDIS applies: "Using an alternative name that the subject is also commonly called in English reliable sources, albeit not as commonly as the preferred-but-ambiguous title" No such user (talk) 07:37, 19 October 2015 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – List of colleges affiliated with Delhi University → Colleges of the University of Delhi – First of there's no university in the world with name Delhi University. It's name is Univetsity of Delhi. Moreover, on the basis of my observation on Wikipedia I've found that while talking about colleges of an University articles are named as Colleges of the X.Y.Z University TechLion (talk) 14:12, 28 September 2015 (UTC) --Relisted. Natg 19 (talk) 05:24, 6 October 2015 (UTC) Relisted. Jenks24 (talk) 07:36, 19 October 2015 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Foreign relations of the Palestine Liberation Organization → Foreign relations of the State of Palestine – Since the previous RM almost three years ago, the name of the relevant organization is now clearly and consistently the State of Palestine. Oncenawhile (talk) 22:03, 26 September 2015 (UTC) --Relisted. Natg 19 (talk) 05:15, 6 October 2015 (UTC) Relisted. Jenks24 (talk) 07:33, 19 October 2015 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Dikson (urban-type settlement) → Dikson – Of the 3 items listed at Dikson (disambiguation), only the settlement is called just "Dikson", and the other two (the airport and the island) are partial title matches. I would also argue that the settlement is the most famous, being one of northernmost towns in the world. At the very minimum, this unwieldy and unintuitive disambiguation, based on Russian census classification, should be replaced with something more sensible, like Dikson (town) or Dikson (settlement). No such user (talk) 07:31, 19 October 2015 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Isla de los Estados → Staten Island (Argentina) – This, rather than the Spanish name, appears to be the most common name in English language discussion. The English name is preferred. 209.211.131.181 (talk) 06:31, 19 October 2015 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Xx (album) → xx (the xx album) – WP:NCM The graphic on the cover is a giant X not xx, which is already reason for a WP:RECOGNIZABLE title, but WP:NCM and WP:SMALLDETAILS also require clarity from XX (Mushroomhead album) and XX (Great Big Sea album). Additionally the album is often XX and the band itself is often The XX in reliable sources, which don't follow the stylism preferred by the band's PR releases. In ictu oculi (talk) 05:21, 19 October 2015 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – SeaTac → SeaTac (disambiguation) – In order to redirect SeaTac to Seattle–Tacoma International Airport. The metro area is almost never called this, and the city is virtually unknown outside the Seattle area (and named after the airport). Oiyarbepsy (talk) 04:06, 19 October 2015 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Golden Days (disambiguation) → Golden Days – I see no reason why the song is the primary topic of this phrase. I think "Golden Days" has a highly variable meaning, and that no article is the primary topic. 117Avenue (talk) 03:53, 19 October 2015 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Nanyo (Japanese mandated territory) → South Pacific Mandate – The conversation above in 2014 the consensus was "not moved". In May 2015, User:Douglas the Comeback Kid stating in the edit summary that "'Nanyo' was the official name of the territory". This is contrary to the consensus above. I would also argue that it is contrary to both the evidence (see above: Japanese wasn't an official League of Nations Language) and to WP:CommonName. People do not call it "Nanyo" in English. How many English WP:Third party sources that refer to the South Pacific Mandate as "Nanyo"? Because it has been 5 months and no editor has reverted the WP:Bold move, a discussion is probably needed first. Iloilo Wanderer (talk) 03:34, 19 October 2015 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Sha → Sha (Cyrillic) – Betsythedevine was right, that the Cyrillic letter does not meet PRIMARYTOPIC status. And it's time to bring this discussion up the proper way: not a BOLD move like the original poster did four years ago:
I am going to move this article to "Sha (Cyrillic)" and then write the re-direct page.
— betsythedevine (talk) 16:26, 19 January 2011 (UTC)
<<< SOME GADGET GEEK >>> (talk) 02:26, 19 October 2015 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Davao (province) → Davao (historical province) – WP:PRECISE. Current titles are still ambiguous and may refer to (or may be confused with) any of their present day provinces. It also does not help that our current convention also uses (province) for existing provinces that are ambiguous like Isabela (province) Leyte (province) and Laguna (province). RioHondo (talk) 16:05, 11 October 2015 (UTC) --Relisted. George Ho (talk) 00:54, 19 October 2015 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Mama Said Knock You Out → Mama Said Knock You Out (album) – The album (this month) seems more viewed than the rap song (this month). However, either they just clicked to the song on the hatnote without reading the article, or they read just the intro and then surfed to the song. Also, neither album nor song is more significant than the other, especially by reading the articles, even when the album spawned a few or several singles. By the way, I revived the disambiguation page because I found television episodes using the same name. George Ho (talk) 20:35, 11 October 2015 (UTC) --Relisted. George Ho (talk) 00:54, 19 October 2015 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Binomial → Binomial (mathematics) – For disambiguation, especially relative to the binomial nomenclature of biology, which is a central element of biological science. Note, however, that there may be a WP:PDAB problem here since there are several other mathematics topics for "binomial" (see Binomial (disambiguation)). Let's first see if there is general agreement that some form of disambiguation is needed. —BarrelProof (talk) 23:10, 11 October 2015 (UTC) --Relisted. George Ho (talk) 00:53, 19 October 2015 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – STAR Jalsha → Star Jalsha – per MOS:TM / WP:ALLCAPS. The all-caps is primarily decorative, and is not evident in the logos shown in the infoboxes or in the body of the articles themselves (at least in most cases). There are various other "STAR/Star" articles for affiliated topics that use the normal English ("Star") form, and although there may be an acronym that fits these letters, it is surely not pronounced by spelling out the letters in normal usage. The target names already redirect to the same articles (in the non-redlink cases). In several cases, these are reverts of old undiscussed moves. There was an RM discussion that moved StarWorld to STAR World in July 2014 (with little participation). —BarrelProof (talk) 21:53, 11 October 2015 (UTC) --Relisted. George Ho (talk) 00:53, 19 October 2015 (UTC)
October 18, 2015[edit]
- (Discuss) – Ilona Staller → Cicciolina – This is per WP:COMMONNAME. Even the article itself says in the first sentence that she is better known as Cicciolina. Google News Search, for example, returns 12,800 results for "Cicciolina" and 2,800 for "Ilona Staller". Vanjagenije (talk) 22:50, 18 October 2015 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – How to Save a Life (song) → How to Save a Life – Given the far greater chart success and sales figures of the song in comparison to the album (the album didn't even make the top 10 in their own country), I think this is a case similar to "Sweet Dreams (Are Made of This)" and "Blurred Lines", whereby the song is more prominent and should be the primary topic. Unreal7 (talk) 22:28, 18 October 2015 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Template:Location map United Kingdom Wales Dyfed → Template:Location map Wales Dyfed – Must be consistent with other related templates. George Ho (talk) 21:20, 18 October 2015 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Kim Yu-yeon (curator) → Yu Yeon Kim – The curator is known internationally in all exhibitions and articles she has curated and authored by the form, "Yu Yeon Kim". While there is a convention WP:NCKO for rendering Korean names in English - this should not warrant changing the use of an established name. In this case, the redirect from Yu Yeon Kim to "Kim Yu-yeon" just causes confusion and is erroneous. The commonly used form of the curator's name in English can be verified on her website http://yuyeonkim.org There currently exists a redirect from the original form "Yu Yeon Kim" to "Kim Yu-yeon" which was implemented by user Sawol on February 11 and again by Tokyogirl79 on August 11. We request that this be reverted to the original form (Yu Yeon Kim) and that this also be protected from further revisions and moves. Sappo (talk) 19:11, 18 October 2015 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – From each according to his ability, to each according to his need → From each according to his ability, to each according to his needs – the suggested title matches the most common formulation of this quotation - the one used by Marx. It says "needs" rather than "need" 2.125.145.186 (talk) 19:04, 18 October 2015 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – 9×19mm Parabellum → 9×19mm Luger – "Luger" is now in more widespread use than "Parabellum", and is therefore the WP:COMMONNAME. Both the C.I.P. ([1]) and SAAMI ([2]) use "Luger". While it appears that "Parabellum" used to be more widespread, "Luger" is eclipsing it. The previous discussion on the topic here seemed to indicate that "Luger" was the American convention and "Parabellum" the preferred international name, but the C.I.P. is the international equivalent of SAAMI. Google Books since 2000: "9mm Luger" has 15 pages; "9mm Parabellum" also has 15 pages. Google Scholar since 2000: "9mm Luger" gets 199 results; "9mm Parabellum" gets 182. Faceless Enemy (talk) 18:24, 18 October 2015 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – The Beatles' influence on popular culture → Cultural impact of the Beatles – Cultural impact of Madonna, Cultural impact of Elvis Presley, etc. Ilovetopaint (talk) 15:37, 18 October 2015 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Anti (Rihanna album) → Anti (album) – The article's definitely not getting deleted, so this request is legitimate, and the proposed title already redirects here. Unreal7 (talk) 12:42, 18 October 2015 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Calf (disambiguation) → Calf – Per reason given at Talk:Calf (animal)#Move to "calf (animal)", calf is now free for the disambiguation page – Paradoctor (talk) 12:25, 18 October 2015 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – New German Hardness → Neue Deutsche Härte – The page was moved to New German Hardness without any sort of discussion or explanation. Pageviews and google search results for Neue Deutsche Härte radically outnumbers New German Hardness. (Neue Deutsche Härte pageviews, New German Hardness pageviews, Neue Deutsche Härte google results, New German Hardness google results) Myxomatosis57 (talk) 11:15, 18 October 2015 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Pomodoro Technique → Pomodor technique – Please place your rationale for the proposed move here. Tony (talk) 11:14, 18 October 2015 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Lean Thinking → Lean thinking – Please place your rationale for the proposed move here. Tony (talk) 11:10, 18 October 2015 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Just-in-Time Manufacturing → Just-in-time manufacturing – Please place your rationale for the proposed move here. Tony (talk) 10:43, 18 October 2015 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Omalanthus populifolius → Homalanthus populifolius – The genus "Omalanthus" is now archaic, and "Homalanthus" is now the accepted nomenclature. Reference: James, T.A. & Harden, G.J. (18/10/2015), "Homalanthus populifolius" , in PlantNET - The Plant Information Network System of The Royal Botanic Gardens and Domain Trust, Sydney, Australia. http://plantnet.rbgsyd.nsw.gov.au Stilts2929 (talk) 06:20, 18 October 2015 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Hasdrubal (Barcid) → Hasdrubal Barca – Per WP:NATURALDIS, there is no need for parenthetical disambiguation in these 2 articles. Staberinde (talk) 16:24, 8 October 2015 (UTC) --Relisted. George Ho (talk) 00:25, 18 October 2015 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Bamboo (singer) → Bamboo Mañalac – I'm sorry to say this but I disagree with Jojit fb's page move to "Bamboo (singer)" despite his reason here. Many reliable sources refer to him, not as simply "Bamboo", but as "Bamboo Mañalac". Israel's Son 23:34, 8 October 2015 (UTC) --Relisted. George Ho (talk) 00:24, 18 October 2015 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Ramona Moore murder case → Death of Ramona Moore – No sources call this a murder, only note murder charges. Even the cause of death isn't in. "Murder" is prejudicial original research, contrary to BLP and NOR. InedibleHulk (talk) 11:47, 10 October 2015 (UTC) --Relisted. George Ho (talk) 00:22, 18 October 2015 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Billie Forrester → Sally Ann Forrester – this recently edited article primarily describes the subject's inclusion in Bill Monroe's band, The Blue Grass Boys, in which she was referred to as Sally Ann Forrester. Although her earlier nick name was "Billie," most researchers seeking information on her would likely search for Sally Ann Forester. Consequently an appropriate page move with redirect from "Billie Forrester" is requested. Rrgentry (talk) 21:33, 10 October 2015 (UTC) --Relisted. George Ho (talk) 00:21, 18 October 2015 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Barbara Jo Lawrence → Barbara Lawrence – This Barbara Lawrence was a notable actress, who has been honored with a star on the Hollywood Walk of Fame. She seems more notable than Barbara Lawrence (zoologist). The actress Barbara Lawrence should take the primary topic and moved back to the Barbara Lawrence page and a hatnote can be used to point users to the zoologist. Natg 19 (talk) 00:16, 18 October 2015 (UTC)
October 17, 2015[edit]
- (Discuss) – Idiopathic environmental intolerances → Multiple chemical sensitivity – Moved without discussion to a name that does not reflect the subject of the page. WhatamIdoing (talk) 19:44, 17 October 2015 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Sandhurst Road School Disaster → Bombing of Sandhurst Road School – A disaster is defined as a sudden accident or natural catastrophe that causes great damage or loss of life. This tragedy was caused by the intentional dropping of a bomb, it was not an "Act of God". 86.182.42.36 (talk) 13:40, 17 October 2015 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Friends (soundtrack) → Friends (film soundtrack) – There is Friends discography, a page about soundtracks from the well-known television series. Also, it looks nowadays confusing. The current title must redirect to Friends (disambiguation). George Ho (talk) 08:17, 17 October 2015 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Friends discography → Music of Friends – It must be consistent with other similar titles, like Music of L.A. Noire. George Ho (talk) 08:14, 17 October 2015 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Kō Shibasaki → Ko Shibasaki – WP:COMMONNAME, it's the spelling that has been consistently used at her official site and on her DVDs for the past three years, and one used commonly in English print media (e.g. [3], [4], [5], [6]). The spelling Kou Shibasaki is also used in English, but as it reflects the spelling previously used by her and not her current choice, "Ko Shibasaki" is the best option. Prosperosity (talk) 07:19, 17 October 2015 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Muḥammad ibn Mūsā al-Khwārizmī → Muhammad ibn Musa al-Khwarizmi – Per WP:TSC and WP:MOSAR: use of non-standard-keyboard/non-printable characters in article titles is discouraged. HyperGaruda (talk) 05:51, 17 October 2015 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Tudor dynasty → House of Tudor – See discussion on talk page Nick Mitchell 98 (talk) 03:37, 17 October 2015 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – The Voice (Australian TV series) → The Voice Australia – See discussion Nick Mitchell 98 (talk) 03:32, 17 October 2015 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – 1994 Stockholm Outdoor → 1994 Stuttgart Indoor – There has been a mixup involving the 1994 Eurocard Open (the tournament held in Stuttgart, described here) and the Stockholm Open (whose November slot the Eurocard Open took in the 1995 calendar), creating this page, for a tournament in Stockholm Outdoors which never happened. The ATP calendar makes clear where the tournament was held: http://www.atpworldtour.com/en/scores/results-archive?year=1994 84.51.139.118 (talk) 22:27, 9 October 2015 (UTC) --Relisted. sst✈ 02:56, 17 October 2015 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Coexist (album) → Coexist – The other two articles on the disambiguation page only have "coexist" in part of their titles. It is unlikely that readers searching for just "coexist" would be looking for these two articles. Also, this article has higher page views than the other two articles on the disambiguation page, making it the primary topic for "coexist". sst✈ 02:32, 17 October 2015 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Peter of Spain (author) → Peter of Spain – Mover said it was not primary topic, but the dab s/he created has (i) this guy, (ii) probably the same person and (iii) a red link. In other words, it is clearly the primary topic. – Srnec (talk) 00:03, 17 October 2015 (UTC)
October 16, 2015[edit]
- (Discuss) – John Wick (film) → John Wick – The film is the clear primary topic: "John Wick game designer" only gets 60,700 results, whilst "John Wick film" and "John Wick movie" both get over 2 million. The game designer was only viewed 614 times last month, whilst the film was viewed 86,805 times during the same time period. Also we won't need the disambiguation page if this move goes through, as there are only two topics. Unreal7 (talk) 22:17, 16 October 2015 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Shades of gray → Shades of grey – Per WP:CONSISTENCY and stable consensus at the Grey article. Bataaf van Oranje (talk) 19:49, 16 October 2015 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Independence Day (United States) → Fourth of July – This is the most commonly used name for the holiday, with "Independence Day" used sparingly in colloquial language. The title should reflect the most commonly recognized name for the subject. SchutteGod (talk) 19:19, 16 October 2015 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Pam Beesly-Halpert → Pam Beesly – Per WP:MAIDEN, a person who has changed their surname should not have their husband's surname hyphenated with their maiden name unless the hyphenated surname is the name by which they are best known. Pam has never been called anything other than "Pam Beesly" or "Pam Halpert" throughout the series, so it is clear that "Pam Beesly-Halpert" is not an appropriate title. Since Pam spent almost the entire second half of The Office's run with the name "Pam Halpert,"
I'm inclined to think that that is what we should name the article.However, it is arguable that since "Pam Beesly" was her name for more than half the series, that "Beesly" is the more well-known surname, especially considering that the first five seasons were much more popular than the last four. [edit: Now that I think about it, "Beesly" is probably the way to go—a quick Google search reveals that she's much more well-known by that name outside the show than she is with "Halpert."] I'm fine with either title, as long as it isn't the current one. —Will(B) 01:33, 7 October 2015 (UTC); edited 06:03, 9 October 2015 (UTC) --Relisted. Natg 19 (talk) 18:35, 16 October 2015 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Irkalla → Ersetu – the preference for Ersetu comes from Mesopotamian Cosmic Geography, p. 273: :Akkadian ersetu is the most common Akkadian name for both the earth and underworld [...] Since Irkalla is also Akkadian (see p. 293), the preference on Wikipedia should also be Ersetu. BoH (talk) 08:27, 8 October 2015 (UTC) --Relisted. Natg 19 (talk) 18:23, 16 October 2015 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Fieseler Fi 4 → Fieseler F 4 – This aircraft was not extant by the time Fieseler was using the RLM designator Fi Petebutt (talk) 17:41, 16 October 2015 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Yiddish language → Yiddish – Per WP:NCLANG, this is already the well-established WP:PRIMARYTOPIC of Yiddish. Yiddish (disambiguation) doesn't even exist, nor is there such a thing as Yiddish people. --BDD (talk) 14:32, 16 October 2015 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Aris F.C. (Thessaloniki) → Aris F.C. – This has been back and forth between the two names a couple of times, so is clearly not uncontroversial and needs an RM to determine where it should sit. I have no strong opinions one way or the other but we need to come to consensus here rather than editors moving the page back and forth. Fenix down (talk) 13:22, 16 October 2015 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Hindu Marriage Act → Hindu Marriage Act, 1955 – year is an integral part of name, hence requesting redirect -- Pankaj Jain Capankajsmilyo (talk · contribs · count) 10:45, 16 October 2015 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Street Vendors Act, 2014 → Street Vendors (Protection of Livelihood and Regulation of Street Vending) Act, 2014 – please redirect to actual title of the act -- Pankaj Jain Capankajsmilyo (talk · contribs · count) 09:56, 16 October 2015 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Right to Information Act → Right to Information Act, 2005 – the current title is not the actual name of Act, so I propose a redirect to full name -- Pankaj Jain Capankajsmilyo (talk · contribs · count) 09:52, 16 October 2015 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Order of St. Sylvester → Order of Saint Sylvester – Redundant abbrevation. Chicbyaccident (talk) 09:35, 16 October 2015 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Order of St. Gregory the Great → Order of Saint Gregory the Great – Redundant abbrevation. Chicbyaccident (talk) 09:34, 16 October 2015 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Jan Hein Donner → J.H. Donner – Jan Hein Donner is a wrong name. He never used the name himself, only a few journalists. As an author he is know as J.H. Donner, so that's a common name too. This is me (mbch331) (Questions/Remarks/Complaints etc.) 09:17, 16 October 2015 (UTC)
October 15, 2015[edit]
- (Discuss) – Nur Ali Elahi → Ostad Elahi – Per the Wikipedia policy on Article Names, in particular the section on Commonly Recognizable Names WP:UCRN, which notes that when there are multiple names for a topic, the preference is generally to use the most commonly used name (as determined by its prevelence in reliable English-language sources), I'm proposing that this article be renamed to "Ostad Elahi". I've provided the results of searches recommended at WP:SET below, which provide overwhelming evidence in support of the fact that the subject of the article is most commonly known as "Ostad Elahi" in reliable English language sources. Google News Search
37 results for "Ostad Elahi"
0 results for "Nur Ali Elahi" Google Books Search
2,000 results for "Ostad Elahi"
1,040 results for "Nur Ali Elahi" Google Trends (Worldwide, 2004-present)
Ostad Elahi: 29 Nur Ali Elahi: 0 Google Scholar
157 results for Ostad Elahi
20 results for Nur Ali Elahi Google Web Search
19,600 results for "Ostad Elahi"
2,940 results for "Nur Ali Elahi"
Google Ngram Viewer
No Valid Ngrams
In addition to the above, also note that: * The title of a recent 5-month long exhibition at the Metropolitan Museum of Art on the subject of this article: "The Sacred Lute: The Art of Ostad Elahi"
http://www.metmuseum.org/exhibitions/listings/2014/sacred-lute *A recent article in the New York Times regarding the same exhbition was titled: "Honoring an Instrument of Few Strings With the Strength of a Symphony: Ostad Elahi, a Tanbur Master, Is Celebrated at Met Museum"
http://www.nytimes.com/2014/08/30/arts/music/ostad-elahi-a-tanbur-master-is-celebrated-at-met-museum.html?_r=0 *All of the subject's published CD recordings of his music refer to him as "Ostad Elahi": https://itunes.apple.com/artist/id371413843
http://label.chantdumonde.com/#/artists?view=disco&id=134
http://www.amazon.com/Ostad-Elahi/e/B000APELAK/works/ref=ep_artist_tab_w *All of the English language translations of his written works all refer to the author as "Ostad Elahi": https://books.google.com/books?isbn=0791481204
https://books.google.com/books?isbn=2911331028
https://books.google.com/books?isbn=2911331001
*All of the websites regarding the subject refer to him as "Ostad Elahi," including: http://ostadelahi.com
http://www.nourfoundation.com/Ostad-Elahi.html
http://www.saintejanie.com/en/malek-jan-ostad-elahi.htm
http://www.fondationostadelahi.com
http://www.ostadexpo.com
http://www.musicforthemind.org/ostadelahi.html
http://www.e-ostadelahi.com
http://www.ostadelahi-indepth.com
https://ostadelahi-inpractice.com
http://www.ostadradio.com
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC5iFS79oo3on0vzidFGkovQ
https://www.facebook.com/ostadelahi
Naolae (talk) 23:19, 15 October 2015 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Caveman → Caveman (stock character) – No proof the subject is primarily a "stock character" rather than a scientific concept. Caveman should be the new title of Caveman (disambiguation). FunkMonk (talk) 22:43, 15 October 2015 (UTC) FunkMonk (talk) 22:43, 15 October 2015 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – North American Black Historical Museum → Amherstburg Freedom Museum – the museum changed its name earlier this year: www.amherstburgfreedom.org RebeccaCa (talk) 20:02, 15 October 2015 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Tendon (meal) → ? – This isn't about a dish or meal called tendon, it's about the uses of tendons in cooking. (There actually is a Japanese dish called tendon, which has nothing to do with the English word tendon.) Not sure what the new title should be, maybe tendon as food which seems to match other similar articles like blood as food. 210.6.254.106 (talk) 16:12, 15 October 2015 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Malaysian Chinese → Chinese people in Malaysia – If we use Chinese people in Italy, Chinese people in the Netherlands, Chinese people in Germany and many more similar articles as standard naming article, what is your opinion? Alexander Iskandar (talk) 11:25, 15 October 2015 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Ministry of Social Justice and Empowerment (India) → Ministry of Social Justice and Empowerment – No other country has a ministry by same name, so word India is not required -- Pankaj Jain Capankajsmilyo (talk · contribs · count) 07:48, 15 October 2015 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Edge (wrestler) → Adam Copeland – It's been over a year since the last rename discussion, and Copeland continues to find acting work unrelated to wrestling, for instance his non-trivial role as "Atom Smasher" in the Oct 6, 2015 debut of the second season of The Flash, in which he is credited under his given name sans reference to "Edge". Given the popularity and acclaim The Flash has received, it's reasonable to assume Copeland is now being exposed to a wider viewer demographic unaware of his previous occupation. Froglich (talk) 07:43, 15 October 2015 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Karmrashen, Aragatsotn (north) → Karmrashen, Aragatsotn – It is enough to mention the province to distinguish it from other villages with the same name in other provinces.--Spetsnaz1991 (talk) 05:01, 15 October 2015 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Two Is One (album) → Two Is One (2003 album) – the primary topic Two Is One is also an album, therefore the current title should redirect to that topic, since as the primary topic, and is an album, all partial disambiguations which have the same meaning also directly refer to it, WP:PRECISE imprecise and ambiguous disambiguation is bad, so only primary topics can use those. -- 70.51.44.60 (talk) 04:55, 15 October 2015 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Restarter → Restarter (album) – Resubmitted as a multimove after discussion with closer of July 'no consenus' single RM. At the time the only other topic considered apart from this very obscure album (Billboard US album chart number 133) was the main topic in books Restarter (UNIX). However there are other uses in books "Restarter" in the context of Startup company etc. (cf redirect Restarter (entrepreneur) which I have added). This album does not feature in a single Google Book hit for "restarter". Re the frequent misunderstanding that we disambiguate by article title please see WP:DISAMBIGUATION which states that we disambiguate by article content. The preceding sentence was added after most of the below comments were directed at the original wording. See WP:REDACT. Dohn joe (talk) 13:39, 16 October 2015 (UTC) In ictu oculi (talk) 02:52, 15 October 2015 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Laplet → 2-in-1 – Seems to be the most common name for the devices the article covers, as evidenced by pages from manufacturers like Intel, ASUS, Dell, HP and Lenovo. Stores such as Amazon, Newegg, BestBuy, and Microsoft Store also use the same term or a variation of. The media is less consistent, often using terms like 'convertible' or 'hybrid', but 2-in-1 is still pervasive. Alternatively 2-in-1 PC could be used instead to reduce ambiguity. Strata8 (talk) 02:00, 15 October 2015 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – List of Pokémon: XY episodes (part 2) → List of Pokémon: XY: Kalos Quest episodes – So this has been quite a controversial subject since the anime logos don't use this, however per this link to the official site, it is indeed an endorsed name for this season of Pokemon. I've been one to always move back along with Kirt but more people want to move it to the new name. I'm having a change of opinion after finding this link, so I am opening this discussion to renaming this season, season 18 of pokemon to the new title. —cyberpowerChat:Online 20:08, 7 October 2015 (UTC) --Relisted. Natg 19 (talk) 00:57, 15 October 2015 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Topos → Topos (mathematics) – The category theoretic definition should not be the primary topic. GeoffreyT2000 (talk) 21:15, 7 October 2015 (UTC) --Relisted. Natg 19 (talk) 00:56, 15 October 2015 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Gaddafi National Mosque → Uganda National Mosque – Per above. Charles Essie (talk) 22:05, 7 October 2015 (UTC) --Relisted. Natg 19 (talk) 00:55, 15 October 2015 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Raymond "Shrimp Boy" Chow → Shrimp Boy – or Raymond Chow (organized crime) – but not a combination of the two, look at any organized crime figure, all have nicknames but we don't add them in quotations on the middle of their name. We don't have Salvatore "Sammy the Bull" Gravano or Angelo "Quack Quack" Ruggiero. See Wikipedia:Naming conventions (people). It is the Wikipedia style to not embed nicknames, despite how others use it. The rule reads "Notable distinctions can be explained in the article, but avoid (for example) adding a nickname, or a contracted version of the original first name(s) in quotes between first and last name. For example: Bill Clinton, not William "Bill" Clinton." --Richard Arthur Norton (1958- ) (talk) 00:12, 15 October 2015 (UTC)
October 14, 2015[edit]
- (Discuss) – Rights → Right (principle) – use singular 73.154.175.89 (talk) 21:49, 14 October 2015 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Windsor Hill SSSI → Windsor Hill – Windsor Hill currently redirects to Windsor Hill SSSI. I see no reason for this as Windsor Hill is the correct name, as shown in the List of Sites of Special Scientific Interest in Buckinghamshire, so I suggest that Windsor Hill SSSI should redirect to Windsor Hill. Dudley Miles (talk) 19:34, 14 October 2015 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Template:Paradise Lost (poem) → Template:Paradise Lost – Primary topic for templates should match primary topic for articles. TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 18:34, 14 October 2015 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Cecil (lion) → Death of Cecil the lion – While Cecil may be notable enough for an article on his own, this article is not it. This article is clearly about his death, the effects, palmer etc. All of this content should be moved to a "death of" article, and if a "BLP" needs to be created that focuses on cecil as a whole, then that can be done. . Gaijin42 (talk) 17:24, 14 October 2015 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Kwara → Kwara (disambiguation) – per WP:PRIMARYTOPIC, Kwara State is the default article for this page. The first link on this disambiguation page is Qwara Province, with an alternative name "K'wara". Per WP:DIFFCAPS, neither "Qwara" nor "K'wara" is the same as "Kwara". The third link on this page is a name of the state football club of Kwara, which derives its name from the same state - Obviously, the club is not the primary topic. Lastly, a quick google search of the term "Kwara" brings up only results related the Nigerian state (News, Web, Books) Jamie Tubers (talk) 16:52, 14 October 2015 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Full Service (book) → Scotty Bowers – Per the criticisms/observations made in the previous move discussion archived on the Talk page, the article has now been substantially revised to include more references external to the book, and reframed it so it can more appropriately revert to an article about Bowers himself. There is a new documentary on his life (entitled "Scotty") being released in 2016 — footage was previewed at this year's Cannes Festival, and this is likely to bring more visitors to a biographical page. Engleham (talk) 14:36, 14 October 2015 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Mint (coin) → Mint (facility) – Per WP:AT#DAB. A mint (a facility that manufactures coins and such) is not a coin, it's a facility. The present name implies something more like the topic mint state (of coinage). Furthermore, many mints produce things other than or in addition to coins, such as medallions, medals, tokens, plaques, ingots, etc. (see, e.g., Pobjoy Mint), so the "(coin)" disambiguator was incorrectly narrow to begin with. The disambiguator "(facility)" is sufficiently precise, and also sufficiently broad (i.e., to include both public and private-sector mints, and to include ancient minting operations that may have consisted of three guys and one crucible). — SMcCandlish ☺ ☏ ¢ ≽ʌⱷ҅ᴥⱷʌ≼ 07:47, 14 October 2015 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – ITV News at 1:30 → ITV Lunchtime News – ITV News at 1:30 is now being referred to as "ITV Lunchtime News" in the programme's introduction, on the EPG, and in TV listings. This is also the case for the ITV Evening News. [7] GMc(talk?) 01:11, 14 October 2015 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Alexandra Hill → Alex Hyndman – Alexandra Hill has reverted to using her shortened first name and maiden name, as shown on her official website [8] and social media pages [9] [10]. GMc(talk?) 01:08, 14 October 2015 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – ITV News at 6:30 → ITV Evening News – ITV News at 6:30 is now being referred to as "ITV Evening News" in the programme's introduction, on the EPG, and in TV listings. This is also the case for the ITV Lunchtime News. [11] GMc(talk?) 01:08, 14 October 2015 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Military Leadership in the Communist Insurgency in the Philippines → Military leadership in the Communist insurgency in the Philippines – Not a title nor proper noun. RioHondo (talk) 23:50, 6 October 2015 (UTC) --Relisted. Natg 19 (talk) 00:47, 14 October 2015 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Mugwump → Mugwumps – This article fits WP:PLURAL in that it describes a specific group or class of people. See also WP:CONSISTENCY—other political factions, like Barnburners and Hunkers, and Conscience Whigs. Additionally, since this was a specific group, "The Mugwumps" would be a common way of referring to them. It's used in the lede, for example. So I recommend that title redirect to the political faction. --BDD (talk) 18:40, 6 October 2015 (UTC) --Relisted. Natg 19 (talk) 00:44, 14 October 2015 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Liu Yan (Bosheng) → Liu Bosheng – The point of disambiguation is to not use confusing or hard-to-understand disambiguators, as the current title did. The history book Book of Later Han almost entirely uses his courtesy name "Bosheng" to refer him. If one insists on using his real given name, there's a problem with the character being able to be romanized as either "Yin" or "Yan" (see the section above on this talk page). Even if we disregard this problem, it's hard to find a really good disambiguator. Therefore I think Liu Bosheng is probably the best solution per WP:NATURAL. Timmyshin (talk) 05:38, 6 October 2015 (UTC) --Relisted. Natg 19 (talk) 00:43, 14 October 2015 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – NXT Women's Championship → NXT Womens Championship – there is no apostrophe written on the belt itself which should be the authority on stylizing. Also falls in line with WWE Divas Championship which has no apostrophe. Ranze (talk) 03:12, 6 October 2015 (UTC) --Relisted. Natg 19 (talk) 00:42, 14 October 2015 (UTC)
October 13, 2015[edit]
- (Discuss) – Canadian honorifics → Canadian honourifics – Articles about Canada should use Canadian spelling, see WP:NCL. —Skyllfully (talk | contribs) 22:59, 13 October 2015 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – The Splat (block) → The Splat – Unnecessary disambiguation. Unreal7 (talk) 20:41, 13 October 2015 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Royalties → Royalty (payment) – use singular 73.154.175.89 (talk) 20:18, 13 October 2015 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – The Catholic University of America → Catholic University of America – I don't believe this topic meets WP:THE. Criterion 1 is definitely not met; as for criterion 2, the T is capitalized inconsistently. As for WP:CONSISTENCY, other universities who typically insist on the "The" in their names don't have them in their Wikipedia titles, such as George Washington University and Ohio State University. And Catholic is commonly abbreviated as CUA (cf. lede and Brookland–CUA station), not TCUA (cf. The College of New Jersey, which has the common nickname of "TNCJ".) Other related RMs can be found at Talk:College of William & Mary#Requested move and Talk:Oldham College#Requested move. --BDD (talk) 19:53, 13 October 2015 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Free University of Berlin → Freie Universität Berlin – The university itself uses exclusively the untranslated name on its English language website and in foreign language correspondence. Furthermore, there is no evidence that English language sources use a translated version of the name in equal quantity to the real name. Google.com shows 2.5 million hits for "Freie Universität Berlin" whereas only 400k hits for "Free University of Berlin". DE481889 (talk) 18:46, 13 October 2015 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Moro conflict in the Philippines → Moro conflict – Technical move. The previous move is not possible. Smaller 'c' to have a 'cleaner' look. Shhhhwwww!! (talk) 16:48, 13 October 2015 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Bateau Mouche → Bateaux Mouches – The plural form is the proper name of the company and also correct if used generically JGHowes talk 15:09, 13 October 2015 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Complex affine space → Complex coordinate space – In my opinion, the content of the article complex affine space should be moved to complex coordinate space. Affine spaces do not have a linear structure, let alone a preferred coordinate system. They also lack an inner product. So the current article title, while it does refer to a thing in mathematics, does not match the thing described in the article. The move requires administrator tools. Sławomir
Biały 14:15, 13 October 2015 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Stop trick → Substitution splice – Searches on Google Books suggest that "substitution splice" fits the WP:NAMINGCRITERIA much better than the current name: it's used by most writers on the subject, occurring many more times in reputable sources than the term "stop trick" (Recognizability); it accurately describes the technique in question, and can't be confused with the card manipulation technique called the stop trick (Precision); and it's still plenty short enough (Conciseness). Indeed, as a couple of the sources in the article demonstrate, "stop trick" was a misnomer to begin with, since the technique involves splicing film rather than stopping the camera. Lemuellio (talk) 20:02, 5 October 2015 (UTC) Relisted. Jenks24 (talk) 09:41, 13 October 2015 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Areekode → Areacode – Areacode appears to be the COMMONNAME. See the website of a local college, ITI Areacode, Google Books search, etc. Areekode also does exist, but it does not appear to be the preferred term. Cpt.a.haddock (talk) (please ping when replying) 16:28, 5 October 2015 (UTC) Relisted. Jenks24 (talk) 09:39, 13 October 2015 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Point Break → Point Break (1991 film) – Point Break (2015 film) is a big studio release. Two months before release doesn't change that. Film Fan 14:16, 5 October 2015 (UTC) Relisted. Jenks24 (talk) 09:38, 13 October 2015 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Feral (disambiguation) → feral – Please place your rationale for the proposed move here. 203.173.182.226 (talk) 09:31, 13 October 2015 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Philippine Constitutional Convention election, 1970 → 1971 Philippine Constitutional Convention – Ideally there would be two articles, one about the election and one about the convention itself, but we do not live in an ideal world. There is only one article, this one, and it contains limited information related to the election itself. Most of the article involves the convention (including information that I added today :) ) or is a list of the delegates -- winners of the election -- which is just as applicable to a Convention article. An election article should have information about the non-winning candidates, deadlines and vote process, campaign tactics and issues, controversies, etc. -- in other words more than a list of delegates to the convention. Therefore I propose that this article be moved to the "Philippine Constitutional Convention, 1970" with a subsection specifically about the election with redirects pointing to that subsection, effectively combining the two topics (election and convention) into one article. The convention itself is more significant than the election since it was in the midst of the convention that martial law was declared and since the constitution that came out of the convention and the ratification process solidified and legitimatized Marcos's rule. When and if the election subsection has grown big enough then it can be spun off as a separate article. The page is protected and so I cannot WP:Be Bold and do the move and redirect myself. Iloilo Wanderer (talk) 08:08, 4 October 2015 (UTC) Relisted. Jenks24 (talk) 09:12, 13 October 2015 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – FC Zenit-Izhevsk Izhevsk → FC Zenit Izhevsk – Per WP:COMMONNAME. Evidence: [12], as 24/09/2015, Russian Cup, Fifth round opposing team in [13] 109.167.134.4 (talk) 12:28, 3 October 2015 (UTC) Relisted. Jenks24 (talk) 08:56, 13 October 2015 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Ikshvaku (disambiguation) → Ikshvaku – After moving Ikshvaku to Ikshvaku Hinduism this page should be moved to Ikshvaku as discussed in Talk:Ikshvaku dynasty. -- Pankaj Jain Capankajsmilyo (talk · contribs · count) 12:53, 22 September 2015 (UTC) Relisted. Jenks24 (talk) 16:01, 30 September 2015 (UTC) Relisted. Jenks24 (talk) 08:51, 13 October 2015 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Claude "Pop" Laval → Claude Laval – No embedded nicknames in article titles. --Richard Arthur Norton (1958- ) (talk) 02:33, 3 October 2015 (UTC) Relisted. Jenks24 (talk) 08:42, 13 October 2015 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Sagara (Vedic king) → King Sagara – Vedic not required -- Pankaj Jain Capankajsmilyo (talk · contribs · count) 19:12, 21 September 2015 (UTC) --Relisted. Natg 19 (talk) 23:48, 28 September 2015 (UTC) Relisted. Jenks24 (talk) 08:16, 13 October 2015 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Ljudski vrt → Ljudski Vrt Stadium – Proper English capitalization and the general naming pattern of articles about stadiums ([14][15]) as well as taking into consideration that the most often used name for this venue in reliable English sources seems to be Ljudski Vrt in this or that version. --Eleassar my talk 06:52, 13 October 2015 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Nader's Daghestan campaign → ? – Hello. The region is commonly spelled Dagestan not Daghestan. Otherwise the contemporary article called Dagestan, which is the exact same region part of Russia would be called "Daghestan" too. We don't use alternate names for articles, (which falls partly under WP:COMMONNAME). Furthermore all contemporary and most historical sources refer to it as Dagestan as well, not Daghestan. Daghestan = 390.000 hits, Dagestan = 997.000 hits. Anyway, I can't move the article manually back and the creator of this page changed it to "Daghestan" without a consensus or a factually correct rationale. It has to be moved to "Nader's Dagestan campaign", which is currently a redirect and I can't change it all back manually, thus I had to open this section. - LouisAragon (talk) 06:19, 13 October 2015 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Dissonants → Dissonants (album) – this new forthcoming album stub creation has blocked up the search for dissonants (plural). The main use of "dissonants" in reliable sources is evidently dissonants. Please see search dissonants + consonants (1940-2015) before commenting on notability of album. In ictu oculi (talk) 04:45, 13 October 2015 (UTC)
Backlog[edit]
- (Discuss) – Matt Boyd → Matt Boyd (writer) – Matt Boyd is also the name of a Major League Baseball pitcher for the Detroit Tigers. I'm not sure if the baseball pitcher would be the WP:PRIMARYTOPIC, but I don't think that this writer deserves the primary topic. Natg 19 (talk) 23:01, 12 October 2015 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Nike, Inc. → Nike (company) – I'm not sure whether "Inc." is in the title for disambiguation from other things called "Nike" or because it's part of the official name. If it's the latter, then I'm confused as to why Reebok and Adidas's articles don't have their full titles too, but if it's the former, then I'm sure there are better ways to disambiguate, as no one says "Nike Inc." in everyday usage of the brand's name. I also don't get why this can't just be the primary topic. Yes, it was named after the Greek goddess of victory, but I seriously doubt she is still more notable today. Unreal7 (talk) 22:10, 12 October 2015 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Graveyard shift → Graveyard Shift – The only terms that are not proper names are the work shift and graveyard slot. As the other terms are all named for the work shift, I propose that the work shift is the primary topic, and the existing page graveyard shift should be a redirect to Shift plan#Graveyard shift, which can be tagged with a hatnote linking to graveyard slot and this disambiguation page. Ibadibam (talk) 20:49, 12 October 2015 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Hijra (Islam) → Hegira – "Hegira" is WP:CONCISE and offers WP:NATURAL disambiguation. It does not have to use any parentheses, yet represents the topic of the article totally unambiguously. Khestwol (talk) 18:20, 12 October 2015 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Civil war in Afghanistan (1996–2001) → Afghan Civil War (1996–2001) – Must be consistent with other Civil War pages. George Ho (talk) 16:28, 12 October 2015 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – NiGHTMARE BOY → Barrie-James O'Neill – Barrie-James O'Neill is his birth name. GeoffreyT2000 (talk) 15:08, 12 October 2015 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Home Free (TV series) → Home Free (1993 TV series) – WP:NCTV there are two TV shows by this name, the 1993 series, and Home Free (2015 TV series), therefore the ambiguous disambiguation is insufficient for this article WP:PRECISE. The current title should redirect to the disambiguation page Home Free -- 70.51.44.60 (talk) 14:46, 12 October 2015 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Easy Jet (horse) → Easy Jet – Unnecessary disambiguation. There are two related titles "Easy Jet" (the horse) and "EasyJet" (the airline). Per WP:TWODABS, they both have hatnotes pointing to the other page. On a side note, the horse article is a featured article, so I would think that any move of it should be discussed (this is only a personal view, and may have no bearing in any future decisions). – Niceguyedc Go Huskies! 08:52, 12 October 2015 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Harmlessness → Harmlessness (album) – This new (and not notable) album is not the natural or most notable meaning of harmlessness and is now blocking up searches to other subjects. It should either be redirected to the harmless dab, or the harmless dab moved to the noun form. In ictu oculi (talk) 04:42, 12 October 2015 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Kim Davis (county clerk) → Kim Davis same-sex marriage license controversy – Should the Kim Davis (county clerk) article be an event article or a biography article? Consensus has decided that there should be only one article (at least for now) at Talk:Kim Davis (county clerk)#RfC: Two articles or one? (Or three?). In the words of the closing administrator of that discussion, "Normal practice would have been to write about the incident first, not the person, per WP:BLP1E" then write about the person later when they become notable for more than one event. Many editors have discussed this already at the discussion linked above and at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Kim Davis (county clerk) (2nd nomination) (which was closed with Snow Keep). Please provide either the word support to make this an event article or the word oppose to leave this a biography article and give your rationale. Thanks to all for your efforts on this subject. Prhartcom (talk) 16:18, 6 October 2015 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – X Tour (Ed Sheeran tour) → x Tour – Kylie's tour is not called the "X Tour", i.e. this doesn't need brackets. Unreal7 (talk) 18:50, 25 September 2015 (UTC) --Relisted. Natg 19 (talk) 05:14, 6 October 2015 (UTC)
References[edit]
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